[Newspoetry] Re: realaudiovideoserverproducerplayer

bhagy at onthejob.net bhagy at onthejob.net
Wed Oct 6 22:10:22 CDT 1999


i've been researchin quicktime as well.  for quicktime, we don't need no
fancy server programs.  this is cuz a qt movie is embedded into the HTML,
as you do with a graphic or the such, and the browser on the client's end
will play the video.  THe only difficulty with this is that the movie
won't start to play until quicktime has downloaded enough info that it can
play through to the end (so about 3/4 or more needs to be downloaded
first...this is called progressive streaming).  QT4 can play web movies
without needing the browser. Major
concern of this is, obviously, download time. It usually takes a bit more
time to download/view a movie that it would with the RealMedia stuff. With
what we're doing it might not be
so bad.  On the positive side, QT does justice to video and audio quality!
I've been playing with encoding in RealProducer, and let me tell ya, it
sucks!  Things get compressed so much that video image is pretty distorted
(you can see images, but nothing is very clear) and sound has some weird
distortions.  Everything from RealProducer can be used for our project, so
long as we don't care too much about video/audio image.

I'm still unsure which we should use.  Which'll be more important for this
web site, time or quality?  And who's actually gonna be designing this
page, do ya know? I'd love to help design it, cuz i'm in the HTML class
and want to put my wonderful learning to use, but would probably need some
help since i'm still kinda a newbie.

brian

On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Joe Futrelle wrote:

> Kewl, I will download the stuff and try the stuff out.
> 
> I dunno how real's server stuff works, but I know that all it is is a
> glorified ftp/web server -- the player connects to the server, sends
> some information about the user's profile including the bandwidth, and
> then requests media in small chunks as needed, which the server sends
> back ASAP.  If at any point the server doesn't get enough media to the
> player for it to be able to continue playing, the player pauses and
> complains about "network congestion"; also it drops video data in
> order to continue to stream sound, and presumbly it lets the server
> know what it's doing.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 09:17:00PM -0500, bhagy at onthejob.net wrote:
> > Hey, the realmedia stuff IS available for LINUX, including all the free
> > programs.  go to www.real.com and surf around until you come to the
> > following programs:  RealProducer Basic and RealServer, and download the
> > free versions for the linux operating system.  then we should be on the
> > same page, reading the same book, looking at the same pictures, and eating
> > the same spamdog.  i also downloaded sumthin called RealSystem, but have
> > no idea yet what it does (but hey, it was free.  that's usually enough to
> > tempt me...watch, it's some virus program!)
> > 
> > do you know anything about how a streaming server works.  if so, can to
> > enlighten my unenlightened light bulb?
> > 
> > brian
> > 
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