[Peace-discuss] PS - int'l flights

[Ricky Baldwin]

Upon further research, it appears that international flights resumed on or 
before Friday Sept. 15.


>From: "Ricky Baldwin" <baldwinricky at hotmail.com>
>To: 
>peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com,prairiegreens-org at lists.groogroo.com
>Subject: [Prairiegreens-org] Re: [Peace-discuss] Saudi jet story false
>Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 21:26:17 -0400
>
>Hi Carl-
>
>On Sept. 11, Transportation Sec. Norman Y. Mineta ordered all commercial 
>flights grounded until noon Thurs. Sept. 13, except for those already on 
>the runway at the time.  Some airports and airlines apparently did not 
>resume "service" immediately at noon, or even until Friday Sept. 14, 
>because of "new security measures" or other things.  That's according to 
>press reports I found.
>
>I do not know exactly when international flights resumed.  However, the 
>article Michael Moore cited, as well as the ones you brought to our 
>attention, report that the Saudis left town after international flights 
>were allowed.  Maybe that isn't so, or maybe it is.  I don't know.  All I 
>know is so far we haven't seen any evidence that the Saudis were allowed to 
>fly when no one else was.  And I believe in such cases the burden of proof 
>is on the one making the allegation, not the one who disputes the evidence 
>presented (technically).  We can wonder, we can speculate - about any 
>number of things we don't know - but I checked Moore's source, and read 
>your postings.  Nada.  Is there more on this that I don't see?  Am I just 
>being difficult - again?
>
>Ricky
>
>
>>From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>
>>To: Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at hotmail.com>
>>CC: 
>>peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com,prairiegreens-org at lists.groogroo.com
>>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Saudi jet story false
>>Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:59:53 -0500
>>
>>How do the dates work out?  How long was the grounding of all aircraft
>>over the US?  International flights?
>>
>>The family members et al. were apparently flown out of the country one
>>week after 9/11, and private internal flights collected them before that.
>>
>>CGE
>>
>>
>>On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Ricky Baldwin wrote:
>>
>> > Congressman,
>> >
>> > There may be a story here.  Unfortunately, it isn't the one Michael
>> > Moore is telling.  I say this as a longtime fan of his.  I don't know
>> > if you heard his version, but he emphasizes that the Saudis were
>> > allowed to leave "without being questioned" and that this occurred
>> > "two days after Sept. 11,"  when all other planes were still grounded.
>> > This is pretty creepy and also clearly false, as far as any of these
>> > press reports can be believed, including the citations you so
>> > dutifully bring to our attention.
>> >
>> > Not that it's worth having a protracted debate about, as there clearly
>> > is collusion between the rich families of the world - including the
>> > Bush-bin Laden connection - but I think we do have to be careful in
>> > making this point not to undermine our own credibility by
>> > misrepresenting the tale.  Like the attacks on Sept 11 themselves, I
>> > think this story is damning enough without the spooky stuff.
>> >
>> > Just thought folks might want to know.  Nobody's bringing any tablets
>> > down from any mountains here.  We all deserve to be checked, that's
>> > all.
>> >
>> > podemos,
>> >
>> > Ricky
>> >
>>
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