[Peace-discuss] Re: [Prairiegreens-org] PS - int'l flights
Ricky Baldwin
baldwinricky at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 19 00:55:43 CDT 2002
Uh, that would be Saturday. Sorry. Time for bed.
>From: "Ricky Baldwin" <baldwinricky at hotmail.com>
>To:
>peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com,prairiegreens-org at lists.groogroo.com
>Subject: [Prairiegreens-org] PS - int'l flights
>Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 01:53:22 -0400
>
>Upon further research, it appears that international flights resumed on or
>before Friday Sept. 15.
>
>
>>From: "Ricky Baldwin" <baldwinricky at hotmail.com>
>>To:
>>peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com,prairiegreens-org at lists.groogroo.com
>>Subject: [Prairiegreens-org] Re: [Peace-discuss] Saudi jet story false
>>Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 21:26:17 -0400
>>
>>Hi Carl-
>>
>>On Sept. 11, Transportation Sec. Norman Y. Mineta ordered all commercial
>>flights grounded until noon Thurs. Sept. 13, except for those already on
>>the runway at the time. Some airports and airlines apparently did not
>>resume "service" immediately at noon, or even until Friday Sept. 14,
>>because of "new security measures" or other things. That's according to
>>press reports I found.
>>
>>I do not know exactly when international flights resumed. However, the
>>article Michael Moore cited, as well as the ones you brought to our
>>attention, report that the Saudis left town after international flights
>>were allowed. Maybe that isn't so, or maybe it is. I don't know. All I
>>know is so far we haven't seen any evidence that the Saudis were allowed
>>to fly when no one else was. And I believe in such cases the burden of
>>proof is on the one making the allegation, not the one who disputes the
>>evidence presented (technically). We can wonder, we can speculate - about
>>any number of things we don't know - but I checked Moore's source, and
>>read your postings. Nada. Is there more on this that I don't see? Am I
>>just being difficult - again?
>>
>>Ricky
>>
>>
>>>From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>
>>>To: Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at hotmail.com>
>>>CC:
>>>peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com,prairiegreens-org at lists.groogroo.com
>>>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Saudi jet story false
>>>Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:59:53 -0500
>>>
>>>How do the dates work out? How long was the grounding of all aircraft
>>>over the US? International flights?
>>>
>>>The family members et al. were apparently flown out of the country one
>>>week after 9/11, and private internal flights collected them before that.
>>>
>>>CGE
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sun, 18 Aug 2002, Ricky Baldwin wrote:
>>>
>>> > Congressman,
>>> >
>>> > There may be a story here. Unfortunately, it isn't the one Michael
>>> > Moore is telling. I say this as a longtime fan of his. I don't know
>>> > if you heard his version, but he emphasizes that the Saudis were
>>> > allowed to leave "without being questioned" and that this occurred
>>> > "two days after Sept. 11," when all other planes were still grounded.
>>> > This is pretty creepy and also clearly false, as far as any of these
>>> > press reports can be believed, including the citations you so
>>> > dutifully bring to our attention.
>>> >
>>> > Not that it's worth having a protracted debate about, as there clearly
>>> > is collusion between the rich families of the world - including the
>>> > Bush-bin Laden connection - but I think we do have to be careful in
>>> > making this point not to undermine our own credibility by
>>> > misrepresenting the tale. Like the attacks on Sept 11 themselves, I
>>> > think this story is damning enough without the spooky stuff.
>>> >
>>> > Just thought folks might want to know. Nobody's bringing any tablets
>>> > down from any mountains here. We all deserve to be checked, that's
>>> > all.
>>> >
>>> > podemos,
>>> >
>>> > Ricky
>>> >
>>>
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