[Peace-discuss] Fwd: What are you people thinking?

[Dlind49 at aol.com]

Robert and all:  As the U.S. plans and implements a preemptive war we must 
consider the ramifications and legal justifications for our actions. GAO, 
DAIG, congressional, and soldier reports continue to verify that gas masks 
and chemical protective clothing are defective and that the troops do not 
possess adequate training. Our military tactics and weapons systems that we 
used during Gulf War I and since have left a trail of adverse and 
environmental effects. If we use these same weapons systems as planned and 
especially illegal uranium munitions then we will cause additional U.S., 
Iraqi, Kuwaiti, Saudi, Iranian, Turkish, and noncombatant casualties without 
justification. Now we have a super daisy cutter and wil use it. OH MY! The 
idea that we can blow a country up to install a puppet government and restore 
it because we want to overthrow its government is ludicrious. The rush to 
war, preemptive attack, in violation of the "Law of Land Warfare"  cannot be 
justified. Robert, the arguement that we place our troops at risk by raising 
questions is flat wrong. Military leaders have put our troops at risk by 
willfull their actions or in many cases inaction. Our miltary leaders and our 
troops can be held and should be held accountable for any attacks that are 
not authorized by the Law of Land Warfare and for putting our troops into to 
risk without adequate training or adequate and functional equipment.  As a 
father, Vietnam and Gulf War veteran I DO NOT WANT ANY TROOPS SENT INTO 
COMBAT WITH DEFECTIVE EQUIPMENT, INADEQUATE TRAINING, AND WITHOUT MEDICAL 
CARE. Robert, as a father with a son in the Gulf why aren't you demanding 
that defective equipment be replaced and that your son receive essential and 
required combat training. That will protect the troops and bring your son 
home safely. Today, Iraq is a mess and all (including U.S.) casulties 
continue to mount due to prior U.S. actions that include: (1) providing Iraq 
with the chemical, biological, and radiological weapons that they possessed 
and used prior to and during Gulf War I, (2) incomplete destruction and thus 
spread of these weapons during Gulf War I resulting in serious health and 
environmental effects (over 221000 VA confirmed U.S. disabled  casualties and 
over 10000 dead), (3) the use of depleted uranium munitions that are simply 
America's own dirty bomb with horrible health and environmental consequences, 
(4) misuse of pesticides, (5) release of hazardous materials during 
destruction of the Iraqi, Kuwaiti, and Saudi infrastructure and U.S. military 
actions, (9) refusals to provide U.S. military personnel with required combat 
education and training, (10) denials of medical care for Gulf War I 
casualties, (11) refusals to clean up environmental contamination caused by 
U.S. actions as required by law and military regulations, (12) continued 
unauthorized unilateral attacks in no fly zones that were never authorized by 
the U.N., (13) intent to willfully bomb Iraq back into the stone age, (14) 
complete destuction of Iraq's infrastructure thus preventing availabilty of 
safe water and sewage treatment, (15) prevention of distribution of medical 
supplies and equipment, (16) sending our troops into a toxic wasteland 
without protection, (17) motivating our military personnel to think that they 
can launch an attack on another nation without legal authorization, (19) 
refusals to correct serious medical care deficiencies in both the VA and DOD 
medical systems, (20) continued statements that Iraq poses a viable threat 
against the U.S. when it does not possess either an offensive nor defensive 
military capability, (21) continued statements that Iraq possesses 
substantial weapons of mass destruction when there is no evidence to support 
that claim and UN inspectors have not found any weapons of mass destruction, 
and (22) that Gulf War I did not result in any casualties when over 221000 
U.S. military personnel are now on permanent VA disability and over 10000 are 
dead.  So Robert- half truths? I suggest that you read all of the GAO 
reports, congressional reports, UN reports, NGO reports, and watch all of the 
documentaries that verify thse actions and the horrible consequences.  DOD 
leaders have been giving half truths for years!   If as a father and veteran 
you care about your son then I ask you to help us ensure that the troops 
receive essential combat training, defective equipment is replaced, medical 
care is available and provided, environmental clean up is completed, and that 
before troops are sent into combat that legal justification under the lAW OF 
LAND WARFARE EXISTS.  Robert or anyone if you want to talk please call me. 


dr. doug rokke
major, USAR
Vietnam and Gulf War disabled combat veteran
643-6205  


**original message follows**


--- Robert Williams <willyy at earthlink.net> wrote:
> From: "Robert Williams" <willyy at earthlink.net>
> To: <aware at grex.org>
> Subject: What are you people thinking?
> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 21:43:16 -0800
> 
> WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE THINKING??  Why don't you all go
> get guns, go over to the mid east, and just walk up
> and shoot our military personnel in the head?  Our
> troops see and hear all your propaganda on anti-war
> and see the demonstrations you get our young people
> involved in.  One thing you don't realize or you
> wouldn't do it is it has an adverse effect on the
> minds of our sailors, marines, airmen and solders.
> They start wondering what is going on and why they
> don't have the support of the American citizens. 
> They start worrying about their families that are
> back home and if they are safe with all you people
> running around in protests. With this in the back of
> their minds they don't function the way they were
> trained and make mistakes. In a time of conflict,
> this will get them killed. Our fighting men and
> women need to know they are supported and they will
> do their jobs with their jobs in mind. This was
> proved during Viet Nam. I know I was there. I was
> also in Desert Storm and the attitude of the
> American people made the job much easier for us. A
> 180-degree difference than Nam. I have a son over
> there and he writes wanting to know what is wrong
> with our young people. You get him killed and I and
> other parents of our military will be really pissed.
> It is your Constitutional right to protest but must
> you poison the minds of our young people with your
> half-truths. What next? Are you going to train them
> how to spit on our solders at the airports?