[Peace-discuss] Robert's Rules and Legal support

[Ricky Baldwin]

One of the benefits of Robert's Rules of Order
(anathema as it may be to AWARE culture) is that this
kind of confusion doesn't happen.  The question of
accepting the revisions and accepting the revised
product would have been clearly separate.  I, too,
thought the question was on the revisions only, until
we moved on. 

It's no one's fault.  It was just a long meeting and
we needed to move along.  Maybe, in hindsight, we
should have put off the decision for one more meeting,
since we did have several questions and concerns
raised.  Now, I think Randall's solution is probably
best: revisit the issue once the present case is over
and we have the benefit of more hindsight. 

Ricky

--- Randall Cotton <recotton at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Linda may have had the impression that we were now
> all OK after two
> revisions (the "charged" leaving the AWARE meeting
> during discussion of
> their case and removal of "level of active
> participation in AWARE" as a
> criteria by the MAP committee). The revisions did
> seem to have agreement
> without objection. But the general reservations
> behind the proposal as a
> whole, expressed by myself (and Carl, to a lesser
> extent), were not
> resolved. A question like "Is everybody now OK with
> the proposal?" was never
> asked.
> 
> I considered reiterating my concerns at the end
> there, but I decided against
> it since I would've just been repeating myself and I
> didn't want to come off
> as harping on it.
> 
> I ask to be recognized as objecting to the proposal
> as it stands as if I had
> done so during the meeting. And that if we revisit
> this, we do so after the
> event that brought this all up (Lori's legal issue)
> is fully resolved so
> that we can discuss and debate with the benefit of
> hindsight.
> 
> R
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alfred Kagan" <akagan at uiuc.edu>
> To: <Peace-discuss at lists.groogroo.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:19 AM
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Legal support
> 
> 
> > When it looked like we had finished the discussion
> of the guidelines,
> > I specifically asked if we were now all OK with
> them after the two
> > revisions. Linda, as facilitator, specifically
> acknowledged that.  Of
> > course, we can always revisit our decisions.
> >
> >
> > From: "Randall Cotton" <recotton at earthlink.net>
> > To: <peace-discuss at lists.groogroo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] legal support
> guidelines
> > Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 14:07:44 -0500
> >
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> > legal support guidelinesI must say that I don't
> recall any expression of =
> > approval by the meeting as a whole. I do recall
> expressions of both =
> > approval and dissent. In any case, I was not asked
> if I objected. If I =
> > was, I would have said yes and others may have as
> well.
> >
> > Now, I agree with Carl that when the rubber meets
> the road in future =
> > cases, the course of events will very likely
> outrun and circumvent the =
> > proposed guidelines, policies and procedures
> below. Given that, it might =
> > be suggested that I have little motivation to
> object. There would be =
> > some truth to that, but I'm concerned about the
> precedent this is =
> > setting.
> >
> > This all seems to me rather arbitrary and
> unnecessarily restrictive =
> > bureaucracy - exactly the kind of thing AWARE has
> a history of =
> > successfully avoiding, to its great credit. I
> could now proceed to =
> > outline my objections to various individual
> provisions of the proposed =
> > guidelines, policies and procedures below, but
> instead, I would like to =
> > suggest the material below not yet be formally
> adopted, that it be set =
> > aside for now and that it be further discussed and
> debated once Lori's =
> > legal fight is resolved.
> >
> > R
> > --
> >
> >
> > Al Kagan
> > African Studies Bibliographer and Professor of
> Library Administration
> > Africana Unit, Room 328
> > University of Illinois Library
> > 1408 W. Gregory Drive
> > Urbana, IL 61801, USA
> >
> > tel. 217-333-6519
> > fax. 217-333-2214
> > e-mail. akagan at uiuc.edu
> >
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