[Peace-discuss] Shakespeare said kill the lawyers, not me.

[Phil Stinard]

Thank you, Lisa.  If the two people who presumptuously mischaracterized my 
position had been at the meeting and had more carefully read my posts, they 
would realize that I find the lawyer's public record to be sexist and 
offensive.  However, just as I wouldn't want anyone to assassinate my 
character, I was just suggesting that it would be fair for the lawyer to get 
a chance to defend and explain himself.  Excuse me for trying to be fair!

--Phil Stinard

Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:51:49 -0500
From: "Lisa Chason" <chason at shout.net>
Subject: [Peace-discuss] about the lawyer
To: "peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.groogroo.com>
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Seems a little odd that 2 critical emails have come from women who were not 
at
last week's mtg. I drafted a note to you all after the mtg as well, but 
ended up
not sending it. As I said that evening I, too, feel strongly that we 
shouldn't
get involved with this mixed bag of a lawyer. But mostly I left Sunday 
feeling
pretty alienated from our group, which I care about a great deal, and 
confused.
It seems to me that if some of the people who have given an awful lot to the
organization express such strong reservations, and say they find this man 
sexist
and are personally offended as well as politically put off by him, it should 
be
enough to have us all change gears and look for a mutually satisfying 
solution.
There was an undertone to the meeting that if we were REALLY radical, we 
would
see that his bad language is appropriate and the professional reprimands a 
badge
of honor, considering the system in which we exist. But to turn it around 
and
have US willing to defend HIM would
mean we all found him worthy, and that is obviously not the case. (And 
please
stop conflating the arguments that we need to have a lawyer on our side, 
which
we are all in agreement on, vs. it has to be THIS lawyer.)  If the group
continues to come down on the side of ignoring what some have taken very 
serious
issue with, there is a risk of deeply dividing our group. I think at moments
like this we should show that we are willing to defend each other, and that 
this
would be far more meaningful in the long run...

Lisa

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