[Peace-discuss] FWD: Vote Fraud as Fundraiser

[Morton K.Brussel]

Because, Carl, maybe someone should do, perhaps principled Greens, it 
the Democrats will not. If, as is conceivable (even if improbable), a 
recount revealed a turn around in the vote, that would have quite 
significant repercussions, which Cobb et al would favor.  mkb

On Dec 10, 2004, at 4:48 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:

> The problem, Jen, is that a central question that Frank raises remains
> unanswered: Why is Cobb raising and spending money for a recount in a
> state where the Greens weren't on the ballot and collected a total of 
> 186
> votes?  --CGE
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Walling, Jennifer wrote:
>
>> I'd agree with what Mort just posted and don't want to discuss it too
>> much, but I feel the need to provide the info that I know to folks.
>> (Feel free to ask me questions off list!)
>>
>> I've never posted to this list before, but this piece really made me
>> feel like it needed a response (Sorry!)
>>
>> Joshua Frank, while I'm sure he's a cool guy, has been critical of
>> Cobb throughout his campaign.  I hate being critical of people, but
>> I'd describe him as one of the "sore losers" who couldn't handle that
>> the Greens wouldn't give Nader the Green nomination (even though he
>> wasn't campaigning for it and had already told certain states that he
>> wouldn't take their ballot line if nominated, etc. etc.  I was one of
>> the Illinois delegates to the Green National Convention, if anyone has
>> any questions about the convention, I seriously can answer them.)
>>
>> David Cobb and his campaign workers are all dedicated Greens who have
>> worked not only on the presidential campaign, but also on Green
>> campaigns throughout the country.  His partner, Kaitlin, who is
>> mentioned in this article recently won a Water District seat in
>> California.
>>
>> Trust me... none of the money of this campaign is going to the Green
>> Party... which a lot of folks have been bitching about at the national
>> level.  And the idea that Cobb is pocketing money is ridiculous.
>> Cobb spent nearly a year traveling the country to campaign for the
>> Greens and I think that he spent only one night in a hotel (the night
>> after he was arrested in St. Louis).  Sure, his finances should be
>> subject to scrutiny, but by law, you really only need to disclose
>> funds that support or oppose a candidate (all of the money he's
>> raising right now is going to a 527 organization and not his campaign
>> fund).
>>
>> I know Cobb personally and his intentions are all good.  He vowed at
>> the beginning to fight voter fraud and he's doing it.  He's making
>> sure that people's votes get counted and that the voting
>> irregularities in Ohio are brought to light.
>>
>> Sorry about this rant, but I just want to make sure people know about
>> the other side of this piece. - Jen Walling
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
>> [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Matt 
>> Reichel
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 10:47 AM
>> To: peace-discuss at lists.groogroo.com
>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] FWD: Vote Fraud as Fundraiser
>>
>>
>> Insightful piece on the real motives of the Cobb "Vote Recount" in
>> Ohio. Also of importance is the fact that many of Cobb's campaign
>> staff are former Democratic party operatives and campaign-workers,
>> including Cobb himself (the purported Green militiamen...)
>>
>>> From: "Joshua Frank" <frank_joshua at hotmail.com>
>>> Subject: Vote Fraud as Fundraiser
>>> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 11:23:33 -0800
>>>
>>> Vote Fraud As Fundraiser
>>> David Cobb and the Ohio Recount
>>>
>>> Something fishy is in the air out in Ohio, where the presidential 
>>> vote
>>> recount in being led by the Green Party's ex-presidential candidate, 
>>> David
>>> Cobb, with minimal support from the Libertarian Party. However
>>> well-intentioned Cobb's pains to make every vote count seem, he may 
>>> well be
>>
>>> pulling a fast one on his supporters and Democrats, who have been 
>>> battling
>>> denial since John Kerry's loss to George W. Bush last month.
>>>
>>> Read More:
>>> http://www.counterpunch.org/frank12092004.html
>>>
>
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