[cu_citizens] RE: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] We won! Eavesdropping charges against Martel have been dropped

Sat Sep 25 11:37:42 CDT 2004

agreed. while this is victory, it is not a victory for notions of justice 
and citizen awareness of police activity. regardless of what else is 
personally at stake for a given individual, the community needs to be 
concerned with the larger question of how, as citizens, we may interact with 
the coercive apparatuses of our government. this question has not been 
addressed to my liking. not even partially. the work is not done. in fact, 
if anything, the task at hand now may be more difficult.

proceed, i say.

scott

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Dan & Jill Schreiber" <djschreib at sbcglobal.net>
Reply-To: cu_citizens at yahoogroups.com
To: <cu_citizens at yahoogroups.com>,"Sandra Ahten" 
<spiritofsandra at hotmail.com>,<baldwinricky at yahoo.com>,<kakranich at yahoo.com>
CC: <peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com>
Subject: RE: [cu_citizens] RE: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] We won! 
Eavesdropping charges against Martel have been dropped
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:23:10 -0500

I'll add to the chorus too.  What a cynical thing to do, to let one man off
while another charged with the exact same crime remains charged.  Obviously
it is just a political stunt, and yet more evidence that there is not equal
protection under the law in Champaign County while Piland remains in office.

I consider this a major victory for Martell Miller, and he certainly
deserves it.  But this is still no victory for justice until the
eavesdropping charges are dropped against Patrick Thompson too.

Dan Schreiber

-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Evans [mailto:veganlinda at yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 10:29 AM
To: Sandra Ahten; baldwinricky at yahoo.com; kakranich at yahoo.com;
cu_citizens at yahoogroups.com
Cc: peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com
Subject: [cu_citizens] RE: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] We won!
Eavesdropping charges against Martel have been dropped

I totally agree Sandra.  It is not entirely a surprise
that Piland dropped the charges and it would be a good
strategy if they want all the public support for
Martel and Patrick to disappear.  They probably expect
us to think "job done" and go on to other issues.  We
will not!

Linda
--- Sandra Ahten <spiritofsandra at hotmail.com> wrote:

 > This is great... but really not a victory as long as
 > Patrick is still
 > charged. It speaks volumes to the capriciousness of
 > John Pilands prosecution
 > techniques. It is a tactic he uses often. Prosecute
 > the criminals who the
 > public will have no sympathy for. This charge will
 > be used against Patrick
 > so that he has so many years of possible sentence
 > hanging over his head...
 > that he will cop a plea on something that he
 > otherwise might be able to
 > plead innocent to... or that he might get a much
 > lesser sentence for.
 >
 > I don't know the details of Patricks other case. But
 > it is beside the point.
 > This should NOT be declared a victory until the
 > charges are dropped for
 > Patrick. It is easy to get behind someone who looks
 > good in the press... but
 > can we get behind someone, who equally or even MORE
 > so needs our support?
 >
 > I'm sure this case was difficult for Martel to
 > fight. But can you imagine
 > trying to fight it when your maximum contact with
 > anyone who is supporting
 > you is two 20 minutes visits per week? (That is what
 > Champaign county jails
 > allow). And even those visits are difficult to
 > maneuver.
 >
 > Let's NOT DECLARE THIS A VICTORY UNTIL PATRICK IS
 > CLEARED OF IT ALSO.
 >
 > Sandra
 >
 >
 > >From: Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com>
 > >To: Kimberlie Kranich
 > <kakranich at yahoo.com>,cu_citizens at yahoogroups.com
 > >CC: peace discuss
 > <peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com>
 > >Subject: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] We won!
 > Eavesdropping charges
 > >againstMartel have been dropped
 > >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:12:04 -0700 (PDT)
 > >
 > >FANTASTIC!
 > >
 > >Congratulations!  And please tell Martel if you see
 > >him before I do: CONGRATULATIONS!  Excellent job!
 > >Thanks for sticking up for all our rights!
 > >
 > >Let's crow about this!  From the rooftops!
 > >
 > >I've been very impressed with the courage, the
 > >intelligence and the hard work that went into this
 > >struggle from the very beginning (down to the
 > details
 > >of the videotape itself).  An amazing thing to
 > behold!
 > >
 > >Who says the good guys never win?
 > >
 > >This ought to be a real boost for the movement for
 > >oversight of the police and for the rights of
 > ordinary
 > >folks!
 > >
 > >Ricky
 > >
 > >--- Kimberlie Kranich <kakranich at yahoo.com> wrote:
 > >
 > > > See full story at:  ucimc.org
 > > >
 > > > about how the community unity made the
 > difference!
 > > >
 > > > onward!!!!!!
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
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