[Peace-discuss] RE: [cu_citizens] We won! Eavesdropping charges
against Martel have been dropped
Ricky Baldwin
baldwinricky at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 27 10:03:42 CDT 2004
I couldn't agree more. Celebrate the victory, but use
it as an occasion to focus more attention on Patrick's
case and the job we still have to do!
And the Coalition for a Police Review Board is meeting
next Tuesday - I'll bring it up there, too. If
anybody else wants to come, the meeting is at 7:30 in
the Bondurant Room of the Illinois Disciples
Foundation, 610 E Springfield in Champaign.
Ricky Baldwin
--- Scott Edwards <scottisimo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> agreed. while this is victory, it is not a victory
> for notions of justice
> and citizen awareness of police activity. regardless
> of what else is
> personally at stake for a given individual, the
> community needs to be
> concerned with the larger question of how, as
> citizens, we may interact with
> the coercive apparatuses of our government. this
> question has not been
> addressed to my liking. not even partially. the work
> is not done. in fact,
> if anything, the task at hand now may be more
> difficult.
>
> proceed, i say.
>
> scott
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Dan & Jill Schreiber"
> <djschreib at sbcglobal.net>
> Reply-To: cu_citizens at yahoogroups.com
> To: <cu_citizens at yahoogroups.com>,"Sandra Ahten"
>
<spiritofsandra at hotmail.com>,<baldwinricky at yahoo.com>,<kakranich at yahoo.com>
> CC: <peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com>
> Subject: RE: [cu_citizens] RE: [Peace-discuss] Re:
> [Peace] We won!
> Eavesdropping charges against Martel have been
> dropped
> Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:23:10 -0500
>
> I'll add to the chorus too. What a cynical thing to
> do, to let one man off
> while another charged with the exact same crime
> remains charged. Obviously
> it is just a political stunt, and yet more evidence
> that there is not equal
> protection under the law in Champaign County while
> Piland remains in office.
>
> I consider this a major victory for Martell Miller,
> and he certainly
> deserves it. But this is still no victory for
> justice until the
> eavesdropping charges are dropped against Patrick
> Thompson too.
>
> Dan Schreiber
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Evans [mailto:veganlinda at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 10:29 AM
> To: Sandra Ahten; baldwinricky at yahoo.com;
> kakranich at yahoo.com;
> cu_citizens at yahoogroups.com
> Cc: peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com
> Subject: [cu_citizens] RE: [Peace-discuss] Re:
> [Peace] We won!
> Eavesdropping charges against Martel have been
> dropped
>
>
> I totally agree Sandra. It is not entirely a
> surprise
> that Piland dropped the charges and it would be a
> good
> strategy if they want all the public support for
> Martel and Patrick to disappear. They probably
> expect
> us to think "job done" and go on to other issues.
> We
> will not!
>
> Linda
> --- Sandra Ahten <spiritofsandra at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is great... but really not a victory as long
> as
> > Patrick is still
> > charged. It speaks volumes to the capriciousness
> of
> > John Pilands prosecution
> > techniques. It is a tactic he uses often.
> Prosecute
> > the criminals who the
> > public will have no sympathy for. This charge
> will
> > be used against Patrick
> > so that he has so many years of possible sentence
> > hanging over his head...
> > that he will cop a plea on something that he
> > otherwise might be able to
> > plead innocent to... or that he might get a much
> > lesser sentence for.
> >
> > I don't know the details of Patricks other case.
> But
> > it is beside the point.
> > This should NOT be declared a victory until the
> > charges are dropped for
> > Patrick. It is easy to get behind someone who
> looks
> > good in the press... but
> > can we get behind someone, who equally or even
> MORE
> > so needs our support?
> >
> > I'm sure this case was difficult for Martel to
> > fight. But can you imagine
> > trying to fight it when your maximum contact with
> > anyone who is supporting
> > you is two 20 minutes visits per week? (That is
> what
> > Champaign county jails
> > allow). And even those visits are difficult to
> > maneuver.
> >
> > Let's NOT DECLARE THIS A VICTORY UNTIL PATRICK IS
> > CLEARED OF IT ALSO.
> >
> > Sandra
> >
> >
> > >From: Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com>
> > >To: Kimberlie Kranich
> > <kakranich at yahoo.com>,cu_citizens at yahoogroups.com
> > >CC: peace discuss
> > <peace-discuss at lists.cu.groogroo.com>
> > >Subject: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] We won!
> > Eavesdropping charges
> > >againstMartel have been dropped
> > >Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:12:04 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >FANTASTIC!
> > >
> > >Congratulations! And please tell Martel if you
> see
> > >him before I do: CONGRATULATIONS! Excellent
> job!
> > >Thanks for sticking up for all our rights!
> > >
> > >Let's crow about this! From the rooftops!
> > >
> > >I've been very impressed with the courage, the
> > >intelligence and the hard work that went into
> this
> > >struggle from the very beginning (down to the
> > details
> > >of the videotape itself). An amazing thing to
> > behold!
> > >
> > >Who says the good guys never win?
> > >
> > >This ought to be a real boost for the movement
> for
> > >oversight of the police and for the rights of
> > ordinary
> > >folks!
> > >
> > >Ricky
> > >
> > >--- Kimberlie Kranich <kakranich at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > See full story at: ucimc.org
> > > >
> > > > about how the community unity made the
> > difference!
> > > >
> > > > onward!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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