[Peace-discuss] End of life decisions

[jencart at mailstation.com]

I'll stick my 2c in.... What you want for yrself, Carl, should be made clear to yr next of kin or person who has yr power of attny.  Y're entitled to yr opinion, but what you want for others -- unless you are the next of kin or have power of attny --  is besides the point re others' end-of-life decisions.  (No smoke, pls, re collateral damage in war, etc., etc. Pls stick to this topic!)  

BTW, are you saying that you could NOT carry out yr next of kin's wishes if they ran contrary to yr own re end-of-life decisions?

Jenifer C.



-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Minne <mincam2 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Mar 31, 2005 9:25 PM
To: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>
Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Subject: Lucky me! - was Re: [Peace-discuss] Liberals and Schiavo

Well, I glad I not one of your loved ones.

"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at alexia.lis.uiuc.edu> wrote:You beg the question [i.e., you commit the logical error of petitio
principii] by asking that one of the points at issue be conceded. To
answer your question, I don't wish for me or anyone else to be killed by
the state, or anyone else. --CGE


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005, Chuck Minne wrote:

> 
> You twist, you twist, and you twist. 
> 
> But let me ask you this: If you were found in a condition where there
> was no doubt that you had a flat EEG and a skull half full of water,
> and had never expressed any opinion on your preference in such a
> situation, what would you wish your loved ones to do? Assume for the
> sake of the question that condition began six weeks ago.
> 
> "C. G. Estabrook" wrote:Come on, Chuck
> -- it was the government, the state, in the person of the court, that
> ordered she not be fed and hydrated, that a guard be placed to prevent
> anyone's bringing her food and water. The government ended her life:
> the husband didn't shoot her.
> 
> If I were Dr. Maturin, I would challenge you to a duel for that "lie."
> There was in fact no agreement over the "flat EEG and the skull half
> full of water." The court *prevented* the MRI and the PET scan that
> would have determined whether that was true. Why is it so important
> for you to believe it? --CGE
> 

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