[Peace-discuss] A conservative on anti-war movements

C. G. Estabrook galliher at uiuc.edu
Wed Jul 13 10:39:53 CDT 2005


If so, it's a set-up he's been preparing for quite a long
time.  --CGE


---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:07:12 -0700 (PDT)
>From: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>  
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] A conservative on anti-war
movements  
>To: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>
>Sometimes I think that Hentoff supports civil
>liberties just so he can claim that he does have
>principles.
>
>--- "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>> But anti-Semitism and nativism are not the
>> principles that the
>> paleos offer for their opposition to the war.
>> 
>> Similarly, Hentoff's support for civil liberties
>> doesn't
>> depend on his support for the war or Israel.
>> 
>> These are examples of what on News from Neptune
>> we've called
>> The Incompleteness Principle: "Nobody can be wrong
>> all the
>> time."  --CGE
>> 
>> 
>> ---- Original message ----
>> >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:47:11 -0700 (PDT)
>> >From: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>  
>> >Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] A conservative on
>> anti-war
>> movements  
>> >To: Peace Discuss
>> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> >
>> >Yes, but I'm concerned with the "principles" of
>> people
>> >like Pat Buchanan, whose opposition to the war is
>> >based on another form of chauvinism. If we don't
>> want
>> >to identify with the anti-Semites (such as they
>> are)
>> >who oppose our alliance with Israel, why do we want
>> to
>> >identify with nativists, not to mention the native
>> >libertarians who never connect the dots of
>> government
>> >power and corporate power? This relates to the
>> problem
>> >I have with Hentoff as a civil libertarian who
>> >supported the war, and supports Israel.
>> >
>> >David
>> >


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