[Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] Bambi in public debate

[David Green]

One of the participants, Coleman Evans, is a graduate
student in Educational Policy Studies, is gay, is
African-American, and will do a good job of stating
the case. I don't know if he's exercising good
judgment in entering this debate with the likes of
Bambi the Creator and Leo the White, but hopefully he
will manage to take it beyond entertainment value.

David

--- Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thanks for posting this, Karen.
> 
> It's certainly an important struggle, as all civil
> rights are, but actually I wouldn't anticipate this
> discussion being either "thought-provoking" or
> "entertaining".  Maybe that's just the old grouch in
> me.  
> 
> The issue is pretty clear, I think.  The State
> should
> not exclude certain classes of its citizens from
> participating in equality before the law, regardless
> of whether individual religious groups in the
> country
> are willing to help.  Any other position gives state
> sanction to one religious faction over another.
> 
> And that's exactly why it was a useful hobby horse
> to
> turn out the Religious Right for our
> Torturer-in-Chief
> last election.  
> 
> Silly and anti-intellectual arguments about "Adam
> and
> Steve", extinction of the human race (we are not
> increasing as fast as we could, you know), or how
> many
> same-sex sexual/parenting relationships among how
> many
> other species of animals would make it okay - or not
> -
> for humans to follow suit, as if such a thing could
> be
> legislated or harassed away, seem to me beside the
> point but much more likely to arise in the
> discussion
> than anything pertinent.  Oh- and the Clinton
> Admin's
> "sanctity of marriage" nonsense is sure to come up,
> too.  Ugh!   
> 
> Thank you, thank you, thank you, to anyone willing
> to
> sit through this, but I'd rather have a root canal
> or
> argue about whether the moon is made of green
> cheese. 
> Sorry.
> 
> Ricky
> 
> --- Karen Medina <kmedina at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Bambi (John Bambanic of the Daily Illini) will be
> in
> > a 
> > debate this evening, opposing gay marriage. 
> > 
> > Thursday, April 20th, at 7:00pm
> > Illini Union Room A
> > 
> > "We anticipate a thought-provoking and
> entertaining
> > night"
> > 
> > ---- Original message ----
> > >There's going to be a debate on gay marriage in
> the
> > union 
> > this Thursday at 7.
> > >
> > >Gay marriage is one of the most divisive issues
> > facing this
> > >country and our campus community today. In order
> to
> > 
> > stimulate discussion on this issue, the Illinois
> > Student 
> > Senate (ISS) is holding a debate on the issue on
> > Thursday, 
> > April 20th, at 7:00pm in Illini Union Room A . The
> > debate 
> > will be based around audience participation and
> will
> > feature 
> > two students on each side of the issue. Opposing
> gay
> > 
> > marriage will be Leo Buchignani of the Orange &
> Blue
> > 
> > Observer and John Bambenek of the Daily Illini.
> > Supporting 
> > it will be Coleman Evans, a graduate student in
> > Educational 
> > Policy and Women's Studies, and Brian Pierce of
> the
> > Daily 
> > Illini. The event will be moderated by the chair
> of
> > the ISS 
> > Cultural & Minority Affairs Committee, Zenobia
> > Ravji. We 
> > anticipate a thought-provoking and entertaining
> > night and 
> > encourage you to attend and voice your thoughts on
> > this 
> > important issue today.
> > >
> > >Brian Pierce
> > >Junior, Political Science
> > >University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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