[Peace-discuss] RE: Darfur (and Gaza)

[David Green]

Yes Mark, play the "gang-rape" card, you're down low enough for that, easily. The campaign to intervene in Darfur is being orchestrated by those who want to be absolved of the "gang-rape" of the Middle East, Central America, and Southeast Asia. I haven't noticed a post by you decrying a well-publicized crime of that nature by our troops in Iraq. You're a hypocrite and a lunatic.
   
  David Green

"Chas. 'Mark' Bee" <c-bee1 at itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
  
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] RE: Darfur (and Gaza)


> But Weisel, manifestly hypocritical as me may be, was right in that 
> statement. Right then, right now. HE has absolutely nothing to do with the 
> idea his statement conveys. I have the utmost respect for the people on this 
> list, but the failure to adhere to the basic tenants of logical discourse is 
> manifestly disappointing.
>
> Related, I'm not sure what Amnesty's position regarding the Israeli-Lebanon 
> conflict has to do with the discussion. I see those reports at the same time 
> everyone else does. Though I must contend that from *my* reading of the 20 or 
> so documents AI has put out on that conflict in the past few months, the 
> preponderance of condemnation is placed squarely in the lap of the Israeli 
> military, and rightly so.
>
> I specialize in East Africa and the great lakes region, but I guess I do see 
> a connect to the Mideast. Those who would prefer to see no international 
> peacekeeping force until the Khartoum government allows it--and thus, until 
> Khartoum is contented with the progress of it ethnic cleansing--are on no 
> better an ethical foothold than those who do not see the inherent atrocities 
> in the Mideast. There is no moral ambiguity in the "save Darfur" movement 
> (whatever that is). But I do see some moral contradictions on this list 
> related to Darfur.


What I always want to ask these naysayers is - "Now, is this because the 
slight chance of some hegemonic motivation makes you uncomfortable, or makes 
the women and children being gang raped and thrown into bonfires 
uncomfortable?"

Only in America... sigh 

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