[Peace-discuss] RE: Darfur (and Gaza)

ouroboros rex c-bee1 at itg.uiuc.edu
Wed Dec 6 17:11:00 CST 2006


David Green wrote:

>Yes Mark, play the "gang-rape" card, you're down low enough for that, easily. The campaign to intervene in Darfur is being orchestrated by those who want to be absolved of the "gang-rape" of the Middle East, Central America, and Southeast Asia.
>
rofl  Cite?

> I haven't noticed a post by you decrying a well-publicized crime of that nature by our troops in Iraq.
>
  Says the big fish in the small pond.  lol

http://masl.to/?H6E92515E

http://masl.to/?N60A6115E

http://masl.to/?J51A1215E

  I think that's 2000 or so of them.

> You're a hypocrite and a lunatic.
>
  Hey, nice meltdown, k00k!

  You lose.

 

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>  David Green
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>"Chas. 'Mark' Bee" <c-bee1 at itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
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>Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 3:24 PM
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] RE: Darfur (and Gaza)
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>>But Weisel, manifestly hypocritical as me may be, was right in that 
>>statement. Right then, right now. HE has absolutely nothing to do with the 
>>idea his statement conveys. I have the utmost respect for the people on this 
>>list, but the failure to adhere to the basic tenants of logical discourse is 
>>manifestly disappointing.
>>
>>Related, I'm not sure what Amnesty's position regarding the Israeli-Lebanon 
>>conflict has to do with the discussion. I see those reports at the same time 
>>everyone else does. Though I must contend that from *my* reading of the 20 or 
>>so documents AI has put out on that conflict in the past few months, the 
>>preponderance of condemnation is placed squarely in the lap of the Israeli 
>>military, and rightly so.
>>
>>I specialize in East Africa and the great lakes region, but I guess I do see 
>>a connect to the Mideast. Those who would prefer to see no international 
>>peacekeeping force until the Khartoum government allows it--and thus, until 
>>Khartoum is contented with the progress of it ethnic cleansing--are on no 
>>better an ethical foothold than those who do not see the inherent atrocities 
>>in the Mideast. There is no moral ambiguity in the "save Darfur" movement 
>>(whatever that is). But I do see some moral contradictions on this list 
>>related to Darfur.
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>What I always want to ask these naysayers is - "Now, is this because the 
>slight chance of some hegemonic motivation makes you uncomfortable, or makes 
>the women and children being gang raped and thrown into bonfires 
>uncomfortable?"
>
>Only in America... sigh 
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