[Peace-discuss] Global warming and human civilization

[Linda Evans]

I'm sorry I missed such an interesting discussion.  I
don't have time to send links, but just for the sake
of argument there are a lot of things we could
advocate that would help the environment or the
resources.  Plant-based diets made up of primarily
locally grown organic produce, walking/biking/mass
transit, alternative fuel just to name three that pop
into my head.  

Has anyone on the list read "Cradle to Cradle"?  It
has been a few years since I read it, but basically we
have to change the way we do things in a fundamental
way.  Recycling is not going to cut it, population
control won't even do it...we have to start living
like all the other creatures on the planet.  All the
other creatures give back even with their "waste". 

I am happy to work toward what I think Mort's end goal
is, but I'm a little worried about telling people how
many children they should have.  It is easy since
AWARE is made up of mostly people who have had their
children (and grandchildren as the case may be) for us
to go around espousing population control.

Interesting topic and I'm glad we are getting into the
world resource issues.

Linda

--- Karen Medina <kmedina at uiuc.edu> wrote:

> We would be better off controlling the largest
> consumers of 
> the finite resources. The subsistence survivors
> actually 
> consume very little, produce much less harmfull
> waste 
> products, and are darn good at recycling.
> 
> -karen medina
> 
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:43:53 -0600
> >From: "Morton K. Brussel" <brussel4 at insightbb.com> 
> 
> >Subject: [Peace-discuss] Global warming and human 
> civilization  
> >To: Peace Discuss
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> >
> >   Just think about it. Although there are many
> >   uncertainties about global warming, reading the
> >   article linked below should give us all reason
> to
> >   pause, and to think about what can be done. 
> --mkb
> >   A quote:
> >   Around the world, humanity has reduced nature's
> >   capacity to dampen extremes
> >   to an astonishing degree: more than 59% of the
> >   world's accessible land
> >   degraded  by improper agriculture,
> deforestation,
> >   and development; half the world's
> >   available fresh water now co-opted for human use
> at
> >   the expense of other
> >   species  and ecosystems; more than half the
> world's
> >   mangroves destroyed; half the
> >   world's  wetlands drained or ruined; one-fifth
> of
> >   the world's coral reefs
> >   (including  crucial barrier reefs) destroyed and
> >   one-half damaged--the list goes on
> >   and  on.
> >   See the rest of the (alarmist?) article, by
> Eugene
> >   Linden, at :
> >   
>
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/17/news/economy/climate_fortune/i
> ndex.htm
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