[Peace-discuss] Paul Kotheimer

Thu Oct 12 13:41:12 CDT 2006

Not in the classrooms I was in.  I strongly suspect
your statement on classroom hegemony of being general
enough to be meaningless.

Ricky

--- Robert Dunn <prorobert8 at hotmail.com> wrote:

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The Left has hegemony in the classroom. Most students
are either apathetic or conservative. By the way,
Dixie is not a racist song. 

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From:  Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com>
To:  Robert Dunn <prorobert8 at hotmail.com>, peace
discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Subject:  Re: [Peace-discuss] Paul Kotheimer
Date:  Tue, 10 Oct 2006 11:37:31 -0700 (PDT)
>Yes, I get a chuckle out of all conspiracy theories,
>including yours.  "Left" "hegemony" HA!  Good one.  I
>remember some of your other conspiracy theories
(which
>I'm certain included some from your list below).
>Sometimes a bit worrying, but now I see that you were
>joshing all along.
>
>But I get it: the "Chief" is a socialist icon, right?
>The 'OBO' is just one small voice for the Right in a
>sea of "Left" papers currently published on the UIUC
>campus, which are somehow invisible to the untrained
>mind?
>
>That's why the whole student body is on strike every
>time a campus union has a contract dispute, right?
>Why the Chancellor can't even get any work done for
>the students and workers taking over his office 10-15
>days out of every month, right?  Why students are
>hammering down the door to get into the Coalition
>Against Coke Contracts?  Why they are trampling one
>another to get into AWARE's student group?  (Hell, we
>can't even find a space big enough to meet, ever
since
>we overflowed the stadium!  And that was just to talk
>about proposed changes to Robert's Rules of Order.)
>
>And the other "Left" groups on campus, have the same
>problem, isn't that right?  It's a wonder any classes
>are attended at all, or sports events.  Must be why
>the football fans love to spell out "AWARE" in orange
>and blue, right?  Drives the TV announcers crazy!
>
>And I'll bet that's even why I saw the Klan marching
>on my college campus when I was a student, right?
>Because the Klan is somehow "Left" too, right? 
That's
>why Fraternity Row all came out in drives to salute
us
>with their middle fingers when I marched against
>apartheid with the Black Student Union, right?
>Because apartheid was another "Left" hegemony, right?
>
>
>That's why the alumni drove by and spat on us and ran
>up on the curb to intimidate us when I stood with the
>Black Student Union against the rebel flag as a
school
>symbol, and again when I stood with the National
>Organization for Women and the Black Student Union
>against the official university band playing 'Dixie',
>right?  And the cops just stood by and watched while
>white people got out of their cars and kicked our
>asses?  That's what you mean by "Big Brother", right?
>
>I see: it's because of the "Left hegemony" that when
I
>was in college, during the First Gulf War, students
>attacked an Indian couple during homecoming, finally
>beating the husband's head on the sidewalk shouting,
>"You filthy Iranian, you dirty Iranian!"  And why
>police refused to pursue charges against a bunch of
>white Anglo students who beat the snot out of an
>Arabic student in the toilet during that same "Left"
>fest.
>
>I get it.  Explains a lot.  Thanks.
>
>Ricky
>
>--- Robert Dunn <prorobert8 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>oh, send big brother. Well since the Left has total
>hegemony on most university campuses, why not use big
>brother in the strickly Orwellian sense. I am seeing
>this more as an opportunity to "punish" the Observer
>for thought crimes against the ideology of statism.
>This is a personal matter between Paul Kotheimer and
>Leo, (who is in China observing a Leftist paradise
>right now). But typical, the Left believes that
>everything that is private and personal is political.
>I support the notion that yes Leo was way out of line
>for the photoshop. However, i will defend the OBO and
>ICU. They are brave enough to stand up in a hostile
>environment in a sea of leftism where groups like the
>PRC can march around bullying folks into opposing the
>Chief.  I do not know personallly the folks at OBO
and
>ICU, however, they are extremely nice and respectable
>individuals from my own interactions with them. The
>photo was in reference to the IMC, i found it amusing
>quite honestly. Who here honestly does not chuckle
>every now and then at the constant conspiracy
theories
>of Zionists, the Catholic Church, FreeMasonry, the
>Illuminati, corporate America, and the Church of
Jesus
>Christ of Latter-Day-Saints all in a conspiracy to
set
>up some one world government and have aliens from
>outerspace invade planet earth to enslave the human
>race.
>
>When you are silenced in the classroom, media, yes
the
>media, remember Acton Gordon, he was fired from the
>Daily Illini for reprinting the Muhammed cartoons.
>Where were the Left who opposes suppression of free
>speech during that incident? If groups like AWARE,
the
>IMC were interested in real free speech than they
>would have stood by the OBO as they led a protest
>outside of the Daily Illini.
>
>When people are silenced, they tend to overact.
>Sometimes inappropriately. If the Left was in the
>position that the Right is in on most college
campuses
>than i think that the Left would act rather rash. Oh,
>yeah, the Left already does. Whether its Hollywood
>bimbos, academic airheads like Ward Churchill and
>Nicholas De Genova who say they want a million
>Mogadishus on our troops and call the victims of
9-11,
>"little Adolf Eichmanns," The Left has its share of
>crazies, want more proof, (I point you to Michelle
>Malkins book, Unhinged, Exposing Liberals Gone Wild)
>
>Leave the OBO alone ok, its 6 months ago.
>
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>From:  "Robert Naiman " <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
>Reply-To:  naiman.uiuc at gmail.com
>To:  "Robert Dunn" <prorobert8 at hotmail.com>
>CC:  wedwards at uiuc.edu,
>peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>Subject:  Re: [Peace-discuss] Paul Kotheimer
>Date:  Mon, 9 Oct 2006 11:31:23 -0500
> >I think it would be much better if the University
and
>the police
> >come
> >down on the OBO very, very hard. If there is a
>demonstration to this
> >effect, I will be there.
> >
> >The picture is still up as of the last time I
>checked. This is
> >totally
> >outrageous. If they had any decency they would take
>it down
> >immediately.
> >
> >
> >
> >On 10/9/06, Robert Dunn <prorobert8 at hotmail.com>
>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>As Carl is notorious or famous for saying, "one
can
>not be wrong
> >>all the
> >>time." In this case, OBO "can't be right all the
>time." This is
> >>scary, i
> >>fully agree with you guys on this one issue. Hmmm,
>could it be
> >>possible to
> >>set up a meeting with the OBO staff to discuss
this.
>The issue is
> >>on Pauls
> >>son and not on politics. I think it would be
better
>to settle this
> >>out of
> >>court.
> >>
> >>Robert
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  ________________________________
> >>
> >>From:  Wendy Edwards <wedwards at uiuc.edu>
> >>To:  Robert Dunn <prorobert8 at hotmail.com>
> >>CC:  wedwards at uiuc.edu, davegreen84 at yahoo.com,
> >>peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> >>Subject:  Re: [Peace-discuss] Paul Kotheimer
> >>Date:  Mon, 9 Oct 2006 10:44:16 -0500
> >> >  have to admit, as someone who is in agreement
>with the OBO on
> >>pretty
> >> >much
> >> >everything, that pic was way out of line. I am
not
>a legal expert
> >>but
> >> >actually,
> >> >parents need to give permission in order for
their
>childrens pics
> >>are
> >> >put in
> >> >the media. Please do not punish the OBO
>collectively for the
> >>stupidity
> >> >of one
> >> >individual. There is a new staff and i am in
>contact with them as
> >> >well. Just
> >> >ask them to issue an apology for the use of the
>photo. Everything
> >>else
> >> >is free
> >> >speech except the use of the photo.
> >> >
> >> >Robert Dunn
> >> >
> >> >Well, the problem was that OBO *published* that
>picture -
> >> >it's currently displaying on their site.  I
>mentioned Leo
> >> >in particular because it's identified as his
>handiwork.
> >> >
> >> >--Wendy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 03:36:44PM +0000, Robert
>Dunn wrote:
>
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