[Peace-discuss] Ron Paul etc.

[Ricky Baldwin]

Ron Paul of course has also lost when he previously
ran for president.

And maybe here's a good place to mention that AWARE is
not just *anti-war* but *anti-racist* as well, as it
should be.  That seems to rule out Mr. Paul from our
perspective, regardless of his other reprehensible
positions (thanks, Mort).

Ricky

--- n.dahlheim at mchsi.com wrote:

> Having said my piece about libertarianism in my last
> post, outside of Kucinich, Ron Paul is the only 
> legitimate anti-war candidate for 2008.  The war is
> the most pressing of all political issues
> confronting 
> our gasping Republic, and with Kucinich having
> already been defeated in previous attempts to run
> for 
> President, Paul probably will corner much of the
> anti-war sentiment.  At the very least, he will stir
> up 
> trouble amongst the Republicans.
> 
> But, remember, I don't think the election matters
> much anyway.  The Youtube debates and the 
> American Idolization of the whole campaign reveals
> how shamelessly the powerbrokers in this country 
> have transformed the political process into a farce
> concealing the basic truth about our society.  That 
> unsettling truth is this: the politicians and the
> political system operates at the behest and pleasure
> of 
> the plutocratic corporate/financier ruling class. 
> Perhaps only a couple hundred people constitute the 
> core of this class and formulate the policies of
> this country.  They own this country, and they spend
> 
> tens and hundreds of billions to lobby for what they
> want.  They will never let a minor inconvenience 
> like an election stand in their way of maximizing
> profits and social control.  If I were them, I
> wouldn't let 
> a little election obstruct my path.  After all,
> Stalin said that it doesn't matter if people vote so
> long as 
> I'm the one that counts them.  Gore Vidal has called
> the Republicans and Democrats essentially two 
> wings of the same War Party, and that is what they
> are.  The prestige of holding political office and
> the 
> massive ego that accompanies such positions
> invariably corrupts just as Lord Acton had once 
> predicted.  So, why are we letting ourselves
> participate in their goofy charade?  Will the
> corporate rulers 
> listen to reason or are they blinded by their power?
>  I think the choice is clear: people must say no to 
> the political and economic system by forming
> locally-based sustainable local economies.  We
> should, as 
> former Dillon Read investment banker and HUD asst.
> director Catherine Austin Fitts says, know our 
> banker and know our farmer so that we can work
> together to build a beautiful world worthy of the 
> highest of American values.  Let's take control of
> our own future in this way.  I can tell you already;
> I'm 
> not voting in this election since voting will
> essentially legitimate a process that utterly lacks
> it.  The 
> thefts of the last two presidential elections
> undoubtedly has borne this out.
>      I am not confident, however, that people will
> embrace such a new direction.  Major paradigmatic 
> shifts will be ncessary; and I don't see the
> necessary reservoir of willpower, intellect, or
> discipline.  We 
> are addled on our cheap, Chinese consumer goods made
> profitable by planned obsolesence.  We are 
> drug addicts addicted to Frankenfood and other
> poisonous victuals.  We are hopelessly impoverished
> by 
> the omnipresent, ceaseless din of electronic media
> and mass advertising bombarding us with the 
> sublminal commands to consume without end.  We are
> lonely and depressed without the social 
> networks to rely upon, and so we turn to the cold
> consumer lifestyle as a poor substitute for our very
> 
> real human needs.  Yet, I refuse to give up all
> hope; I just think we must be honest about the real 
> hurdles we have to face.  The collective mind of the
> American people will not grasp even the gravity of 
> the scientific consensus surrounding global warming
> at this late stage in the game.  Who knows where 
> the future will lead us when these cultural
> observations receive our attention.
> 
> 
> ----------------------  Original Message: 
> ---------------------
> From:    <illyes at uiuc.edu>
> To:      peace-discuss at anti-war.net
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Ron Paul etc.
> Date:    Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:15:55 +0000
> 
> > I'm 63 years of age. At about age 30, I took a
> close look at my basically 
> > Libertarian opinions, and realized that the
> question of who was in charge was a 
> > red herring. It doesn't matter who is in charge.
> It does matter what is done. If 
> > we debate the former, we neglect the latter, and
> do great harm.
> > 
> > Bob
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