[Peace-discuss] Freedom of speech in CA (not in IL)

[Karen Medina]

RE: WWJB the movie

I particularly liked the scene with the teenage girls researching.
 
And where Reverend Billy asked the police if they had come to arrest Wal*Mart. 

I agree with Robert Naiman, though it is sometimes tough to know who to link up with. Especially when people have a religious-like commitment to a cause. They (we) may think that getting involved in related stuff would slow them down or sidetrack them from their commitment to the cause, or that the cause is bigger than right now.

I, for instance, do not claim to support any presidential candidate but wish that all presidential candidates would consider being anti-war.

-karen medina

---- Original message ----
>Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 11:49:06 -0600
>From: "Robert Naiman" <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>  
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Freedom of speech in CA (not in IL)  
>To: "Stuart Levy" <slevy at ncsa.uiuc.edu>
>Cc: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
>
>I saw WWJB last night (the last night, unfortunately, but I suppose
>the movie will be available on video soon.) There was a scene in which
>Rev. Billy was arrested. But they weren't just passing out leaflets.
>:)
>
>My only regret about the movie was that it didn't link to any
>campaigns. No doubt this is in part a result of the lead time to
>produce and distribute a Hollywood movie - by the time the movie is
>out, the target of the campaign might have changed. (The movie did
>give a good platform to the National Labor Committee talking about
>sweatshops.)
>
>Still, in the scene where Rev. Billy's companion bemoans that they
>aren't having any effect, I couldn't help thinking, "that's because
>you're not being strategic. you're not linking up with anyone and
>you're swinging in all directions at once. the church of stop shopping
>should link up with the coalition for immokole workers and go visit
>burger king..."
>
>On Dec 28, 2007 11:30 AM, Stuart Levy <slevy at ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:14:35AM -0600, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> > [Local liberals are aghast at our suggestion that places like Lincoln
>> > Square are "the modern equivalent of a town square or community meeting
>> > place," but the California Supreme Court has grasped this obvious point.
>>
>> Who's aghast?  This sounds like the middle of a conversation I've missed.
>>
>>
>> > (And  I do love the objection that protesters were attacking the shopping
>> > center's "right to exist"; I wonder if that argument will be used
>> > elsewhere?) Happy new year.  --CGE]
>>
>> Hope many of us saw "What Would Jesus Buy", which was at the New Art.
>> Rev. Billy and the Stop Shopping Choir travelled across the nation,
>> singing at shopping malls (and elsewhere) and encouraging people
>> to recognize the scourge of consumerism and to Stop Shopping.
>> No mention of legal action, but they were urged off the premises
>> of every mall -- still, thanks to guerrilla theater tactics they
>> were able to make their point.
>>
>> >       California's top court curbs malls seeking to limit boycotts
>> >       Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer
>> >       Tuesday, December 25, 2007
>> >
>> > SAN FRANCISCO -- Labor unions and political protesters are protected by
>> > freedom of speech when they leaflet shoppers at malls in California and
>> > urge them to boycott stores, a sharply divided state Supreme Court ruled
>> > Monday.
>>
>> Yep, this is great news.
>>
>>   [...]
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