[Peace-discuss] US betrayed by Democrats again

[Chas. 'Mark' Bee]

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From: "karen medina" <kmedina at uiuc.edu>
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Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] US betrayed by Democrats again


> Chas. 'Mark' Bee wrote:
>> the myopic hard left.
>
> Chas.,
>
> Do you consider yourself to be soft left? Just where are you?

  Non-myopic "star-trek-Socialist", or at least that's my term for it, but one 
that recognizes and accepts the long road ahead.  Eventually, no money, machine 
labor, free education and resources, etc. - but not quite yet.  I'm certainly 
not one to prevent the only party in a position to get results from helping 
decouple Congress from the M.I.C. in return for 5 minutes of video exposure, if 
that's what you mean.

   I've stated my Iraq war position on the list before, to assorted flavors of 
indifference and disrespect.  US out, UN (or other multinational substitute) 
in.  Being a pragmatist seeking actual fixes rather than an increase in my own 
feelygood happysap level, I count my desired results pretty much strictly by 
number of lives to be saved on the ground.

> We all notice your hatred toward one person, so we see your myopia with every 
> post.

  No, but if you'll put on _your_ specs for a bit, you'll notice a number of 
comments on his routine dishonest tactics.  Perhaps a quick review of my posts 
is in order, as well as what percentage of Carl's posts I actually respond to 
and why - when folks don't lie, I generally don't bitch.  It's actually fairly 
simple - tell the truth, make some sense, no problem.  I reserve the right to 
jam folks trying to snow me, as any human being should.

> But what are your views on the issues?

  De-Americanization ASAP, then demilitarization, no further power vacuum 
allowed.  Full return of internal security and internal resources to the Iraqi 
people.  Full reconstruction on our dime.