[Peace-discuss] Consensus -- No place for nasty... vs not nasty enough

[Jenifer Cartwright]

Case in point re not treating fellow members w/ respect in Carl's response to Bob: "What a daffy collection of supposed political sins..." 
   
  Am I the only person who has a problem w/ nasty comments like these? 
   
  Am I the only one amazed and appalled that Carl thinks he's not nasty enough???
   
  Jenifer
   
   
   
   
   
   

"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:
  What a daffy collection of supposed political sins!

But, interestingly, Bob chooses not to answer on the point that he said 
was wrong in the flyer, the US/Israel relation.


Bob Illyes wrote:
> For those of you who were not at last AWARE meeting, we discussed
> that Carl had violated the standing AWARE policy regarding using
> our name as an endorsement unless we had consensus. I thought that
> was the end of the matter. But as you can see, it is not.
> 
> As for what Carl calls "so silly and made up of such fantastic
> charges that I don't think it's possible to answer -- or worth
> the time to do so," the record shows otherwise. Going through
> my points (you'll need to read my prior post to know what they
> were):
> 
> 1) Mort and Carl had long argument at a recent AWARE meeting
> regarding Carl's stated contempt for Democrats and liberals,
> and Carl's claim that Democrats are more responsible than
> Republicans for our actions in Iraq. The parties are
> equally culpable in Congress. The Republicans are completely
> culpable in the administration. That is what the record shows.
> 
> 2) Carl's "no good presidents" position was taken at a party in
> the home of George and Bettina Francis, who were a part of the
> conversation.
> 
> 3) Carl's notion that a conspiracy of international capital drives
> modern history is all over his writings and what he says. I
> don't recall ever hearing him speak well of either Israel or
> of America.
> 
> 4) Carl and I have repeatedly differed on the desirability of
> conflict in promoting peace, both on this list and at meetings.
> 
> The reader can fill in the rest of the blanks. I see no point in
> continuing a discussion in which facts are treated as irrelevant.
> I have quit this subject unless there is another violation of
> AWARE's rules.
> 
> Bob
> 
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