[Peace-discuss] Party politics

[Chas. 'Mark' Bee]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara kessel" <barkes at gmail.com>
To: "Bob Illyes" <illyes at uiuc.edu>
Cc: <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Party politics


>I also deeply agree with Carl's statement. And it is not dependent on
> how good or bad individual Dems are. Issue movements of all types need
> to maintain their independence  - from parties as well as from
> corporate interests (hard to distinguish from one another now) - in
> order to be effective. Barbara Kessel

  There is, of course, a major difference in maintaining one's independence 
from the Democratic party and maintaining a hostile local environment that 
will limit Democrat rank and file participation in your organization itself.

>
> On 7/20/07, Bob Illyes <illyes at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>> Carl writes "I think the antiwar movement would be irrelevant, though, if
>> we did this [backing the Democrats]. We'll be much more effective if we
>> articulate our own principles and demands--including immediate
>> withdrawal--and fight for them."
>>
>> I think this is accurate. Although many Democrats are active in 
>> supporting
>> the anti-war movement, the anti-war movement should stick to its issues 
>> and
>> not back a particular party.
>>
>> Bob
>>
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