[Peace-discuss] USG plans for Iraq and Iran -- and protesters?

[Chas. 'Mark' Bee]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
To: "Chas. 'Mark' Bee" <c-bee1 at itg.uiuc.edu>
Cc: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] USG plans for Iraq and Iran -- and protesters?


> Egad! You've now exposed my secret plot to end the war, subvert the 
> Democratic party, and turn WEFT into alternative radio!

  WEFT is alternative radio, despite your routine lies to the contrary.
>
> You found out my "selfish motives" for luring "local organizations down 
> the primrose path for my own aggrandizement"!  It was going to make me 
> scads of money!

  No, you only tried to get 5 hours a week of News From Neptune - and told 
us lie after lie after lie after lie in the process.

>
>
> Chas. 'Mark' Bee wrote:
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
>> To: "Chas. 'Mark' Bee" <c-bee1 at itg.uiuc.edu>
>> Cc: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] USG plans for Iraq and Iran -- and 
>> protesters?
>>
>>
>>> Mark's last post almost seemed coherent, but the moment's passed.
>>
>>   Hmm.  You mean like continually telling a radio station to ditch 95% of 
>> its music for your own selfish motives, despite a complete absence of 
>> real reasons to do so, months after all your hoax points were answered 
>> elsewhere, and when no brick and mortar radio station has ever done so 
>> and survived? lol
>>
>>  Just another example of your urging a different local organization down 
>> the primrose path for your own aggrandizement.  I guess coherence is as 
>> coherence does.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
>> Cc: "WEFT Associates mailing list" <wefta at lists.chambana.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Wefta] WORT streams some of their on-air broadcast online.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
>>>
>>>> some other online stations I've listened to have made the choice to not 
>>>> play
>>>> RIAA-licensed works.  This means that they don't have to deal with the 
>>>> RIAA
>>>> license restrictions at all...
>>>
>>> Why isn't this the appropriate solution?  Then webcasting could proceed 
>>> unhindered.  WEFT shouldn't be broadcasting commercial music that's 
>>> easily downloaded to iPods anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
>> To: <CROW at reformweft.org>
>> Cc: <wefta at weft.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:30 PM
>> Subject: [WEFTa] The choice between webcasting and big business
>>
>>
>>> A friend of mine (techie, early 40s, works at Beckman) was telling me 
>>> that he listened to WILL, not WEFT, at home and work.  Why?  "Well, I 
>>> don't own a *radio*," he said in the tone he'd use if I suggested he had 
>>> a butter-churn or a washboard. Of course not: he listens continuously 
>>> via his computer.
>>>
>>> WEFT of course should be webcasting as WILL does, but it is now even 
>>> less possible for us to do so, owing to a "new fee schedule for 
>>> webstreaming RIAA tracks ... effective retroactively to the start of 
>>> 2006 ... Next year and every year through 2010 this fee will go 
>>> up..."(See <http://digitalcitizen.info/>.)
>>>
>>> "I'm not sure if this is in addition to or a replacement for the content 
>>> restrictions which prevent playing songs from the same artist more than 
>>> a certain number of times in a row, or in a 3-hour period, and so on. 
>>> But perhaps that doesn't matter -- it's not hard to see how the new fee 
>>> schedule makes webcasting RIAA tracks completely unaffordable. Just run 
>>> some sample calculations out to 1 year and watch the fees add up beyond 
>>> what small stations (individuals and small volunteer outfits) can afford 
>>> to pay."
>>>
>>> The BBC reports, "Royalties threaten internet radio. Internet radio 
>>> stations are warning they could be forced off the air by a big increase 
>>> in the royalties they pay to play music."
>>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/technology/6430489.stm>
>>>
>>> The solution for WEFT is obvious.  Don't do business with the RIAA. 
>>> Their material is available (for the fee) to every ipod.  Let WEFT 
>>> become what it says it is, alternative radio.  Webcast independent 
>>> cultural terial.   --CGE
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
>> To: "CROW is a list for people interested in the radio station WEFT." 
>> <crow at reformweft.org>; <wefta at weft.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:14 PM
>> Subject: [WEFTa] [Fwd: The choice between webcasting and big business]
>>
>>
>>> [The choice is becoming clearer, between WEFT's being an outlet for 
>>> (essentially an unpaid advertisement for) commercial recorded music, or 
>>> webcasting.  --CGE]
>>>
>>> From Democracy Now, 18 April 2007:
>>>
>>> Most Online Radio Stations Face Bankruptcy Under New Rules
>>>
>>> Meanwhile online radio stations have been dealt a major setback. Last 
>>> month the Copyright Royalty Board decided to implement a new system to 
>>> determine how royalties are paid for music played online. Analysts 
>>> predict the royalty increase will bankrupt 85 percent of online 
>>> broadcasters. The board's decision was opposed by many small internet 
>>> broadcasters as well as National Public Radio and Yahoo. On Monday the 
>>> Copyright Royalty Board denied a request to reconsider the royalty hike. 
>>> The board also declined to postpone the May 15 deadline to collect 
>>> monthly payments under the new rules. Up until now small broadcasters 
>>> have been allowed to pay about 12 percent of their revenues but now the 
>>> royalties will be calculated on a per-song, per-hour rate. To fight the 
>>> rate increase, a group of webcasters, musicians and independent record 
>>> labels have formed the SaveNetRadio Coalition.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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