[Peace-discuss] USG plans for Iraq and Iran -- and protesters?

C. G. Estabrook galliher at uiuc.edu
Fri Jul 20 16:38:12 CDT 2007


Egad! You've now exposed my secret plot to end the war, subvert the 
Democratic party, and turn WEFT into alternative radio!

You found out my "selfish motives" for luring "local organizations down 
the primrose path for my own aggrandizement"!  It was going to make me 
scads of money!

Curses! Foiled again!


Chas. 'Mark' Bee wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
> To: "Chas. 'Mark' Bee" <c-bee1 at itg.uiuc.edu>
> Cc: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] USG plans for Iraq and Iran -- and protesters?
> 
> 
>> Mark's last post almost seemed coherent, but the moment's passed.
> 
>   Hmm.  You mean like continually telling a radio station to ditch 95% 
> of its music for your own selfish motives, despite a complete absence of 
> real reasons to do so, months after all your hoax points were answered 
> elsewhere, and when no brick and mortar radio station has ever done so 
> and survived? lol
> 
>  Just another example of your urging a different local organization down 
> the primrose path for your own aggrandizement.  I guess coherence is as 
> coherence does.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
> Cc: "WEFT Associates mailing list" <wefta at lists.chambana.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Wefta] WORT streams some of their on-air broadcast online.
> 
> 
>>
>>
>> J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
>>
>>> some other online stations I've listened to have made the choice to 
>>> not play
>>> RIAA-licensed works.  This means that they don't have to deal with 
>>> the RIAA
>>> license restrictions at all...
>>
>> Why isn't this the appropriate solution?  Then webcasting could 
>> proceed unhindered.  WEFT shouldn't be broadcasting commercial music 
>> that's easily downloaded to iPods anyway.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
> To: <CROW at reformweft.org>
> Cc: <wefta at weft.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:30 PM
> Subject: [WEFTa] The choice between webcasting and big business
> 
> 
>> A friend of mine (techie, early 40s, works at Beckman) was telling me 
>> that he listened to WILL, not WEFT, at home and work.  Why?  "Well, I 
>> don't own a *radio*," he said in the tone he'd use if I suggested he 
>> had a butter-churn or a washboard. Of course not: he listens 
>> continuously via his computer.
>>
>> WEFT of course should be webcasting as WILL does, but it is now even 
>> less possible for us to do so, owing to a "new fee schedule for 
>> webstreaming RIAA tracks ... effective retroactively to the start of 
>> 2006 ... Next year and every year through 2010 this fee will go 
>> up..."(See <http://digitalcitizen.info/>.)
>>
>> "I'm not sure if this is in addition to or a replacement for the 
>> content restrictions which prevent playing songs from the same artist 
>> more than a certain number of times in a row, or in a 3-hour period, 
>> and so on. But perhaps that doesn't matter -- it's not hard to see how 
>> the new fee schedule makes webcasting RIAA tracks completely 
>> unaffordable. Just run some sample calculations out to 1 year and 
>> watch the fees add up beyond what small stations (individuals and 
>> small volunteer outfits) can afford to pay."
>>
>> The BBC reports, "Royalties threaten internet radio. Internet radio 
>> stations are warning they could be forced off the air by a big 
>> increase in the royalties they pay to play music."
>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/technology/6430489.stm>
>>
>> The solution for WEFT is obvious.  Don't do business with the RIAA. 
>> Their material is available (for the fee) to every ipod.  Let WEFT 
>> become what it says it is, alternative radio.  Webcast independent 
>> cultural terial.   --CGE
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
> To: "CROW is a list for people interested in the radio station WEFT." 
> <crow at reformweft.org>; <wefta at weft.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 4:14 PM
> Subject: [WEFTa] [Fwd: The choice between webcasting and big business]
> 
> 
>> [The choice is becoming clearer, between WEFT's being an outlet for 
>> (essentially an unpaid advertisement for) commercial recorded music, 
>> or webcasting.  --CGE]
>>
>> From Democracy Now, 18 April 2007:
>>
>> Most Online Radio Stations Face Bankruptcy Under New Rules
>>
>> Meanwhile online radio stations have been dealt a major setback. Last 
>> month the Copyright Royalty Board decided to implement a new system to 
>> determine how royalties are paid for music played online. Analysts 
>> predict the royalty increase will bankrupt 85 percent of online 
>> broadcasters. The board's decision was opposed by many small internet 
>> broadcasters as well as National Public Radio and Yahoo. On Monday the 
>> Copyright Royalty Board denied a request to reconsider the royalty 
>> hike. The board also declined to postpone the May 15 deadline to 
>> collect monthly payments under the new rules. Up until now small 
>> broadcasters have been allowed to pay about 12 percent of their 
>> revenues but now the royalties will be calculated on a per-song, 
>> per-hour rate. To fight the rate increase, a group of webcasters, 
>> musicians and independent record labels have formed the SaveNetRadio 
>> Coalition.
>>
> 
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