[Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] Re: Peace Digest, Vol 42, Issue 20

[Ricky Baldwin]

Carl,

I'm sorry but now you're being disingenuous.  You know
perfectly well that there is a forum for such
discussions and that no one has tried to block it.  I
think you probably also know that the gratuitous
personal attack was your first line:

"If you think you can be 'progressive' without
thinking about it, fine."

You know Matt and know him to be thoughtful, a
critical thinker in fact, and no slave to progressive
fashion. And I think you can read his
complaint/request well enough to know that he is
explicitly not saying that events can't be critiqued:

"If you want to critique it, do it in the venues
available to you--please not on peace
announce-digest."

Ricky

--- "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:

> Ricky--
> 
> Matt was offended that he had to have in his in-box
> my questioning of 
> the wisdom of the demonstration Bob was promoting. 
> This, to Matt, was 
> an "ideological critique of events that other
> progressives have organized."
> 
> He clearly thought that such questioning was
> "unproductive behavior," as 
> you say, but it seems to me that thinking about what
> is in fact 
> progressive is one of the things AWARE should be
> doing.  It's clearly no 
> more a "gratuitous personal attack" than his
> objection to my "critique."
> 
> --CGE
> 
> Ricky Baldwin wrote:
> > ...
> > People often try out the "peace-discuss" list,
> then
> > decide that the traffic is to heavy.  Part of what
> > clogs it, of course, is gratuitous personal
> attacks
> > and other unproductive behavior - like Carl's
> note... 
> > 
> > --- "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> > 
> >> If you think you can be "progressive" without
> >> thinking about it, fine.
> >> If however you think you want to figure out
> what's
> >> going on -- and what
> >> can be done about it -- you should participate in
> >> the discussion.  --CGE
> >>
> >>
> >> Matt Murrey wrote:
> >>> I purposely got off the peace-discuss list
> because
> >> I am not
> >>> interested in reading the ideological critiques
> of
> >> events that other
> >>> progressives have organized.  If you don't want
> to
> >> attend don't show
> >>> up.  If you want to critique it, do it in the
> >> venues available to
> >>> you--please not on peace announce-digest.
> Thanks,
> >> Matthew Murrey...
> >>
> 



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