[Peace-discuss] How the story was 'planted' minutes after ithappened.

Tue Jun 5 13:28:15 CDT 2007

I stand chagrinly corrected on the list of passengers, question 2.

  Question 1 response is old hat and is a stretch beyond Occam. This explanation is a joke of the worst kind.

  Question 3 is impossible to answer without oxidizers. Building fires simply do not make molten metal. When thremite or thermate is used to bring a building down, molten steel will result. Cite an example other than 9-11 when molten metal was found in the basement of a building destroyed (or more realistically, partially destroyed, because prior to 9-11 no steel building framed building has been brought down by fire,) by fire. Talk about an extraordinary claim, this is surely one of the highest magnitude. Not only did the molten metal last and last, it lasted after being dowsed with thousands of gallons of water.

"Chas. 'Mark' Bee" <c-bee1 at itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:

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From: Chuck Minne 
To: Ricky Baldwin ; n.dahlheim at mchsi.com ; peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] How the story was 'planted' minutes after ithappened.

I could not agree more with your statement below. And in that light I ask three (of many possible) questions:

1. How could small fires in Building 7 make it fall at virtually free-fall speed?

  By becoming bigger fires, and joining in with damage from earler collapses.

http://wtc.nist.gov/media/testimony/TestimonySept8_06.pdf

"• An initial local failure at the lower floors (below floor 13) of the building due to fire
and/or debris induced structural damage of a critical column (the initiating event),
which supported a large span floor bay with an area of about 2000 ft2;
• Vertical progression of the initial local failure up to the east penthouse, as large floor
bays were unable to redistribute the loads, bringing down the interior structure below
the east penthouse; and,
• Horizontal progression of the failure across the lower floors (in the region of floors 5
and 7, that were much thicker than the rest of the floors), triggered by damage due to
the vertical failure resulting in disproportionate collapse of the entire structure.

NIST has reviewed the fuel system for emergency power in WTC 7, which contained two
independently supplied and operated fuel systems for emergency power. The two
systems combined with all of the sub-systems, contained more than an estimated 43,000
gal of fuel, assuming all tanks were filled near capacity.

One of these systems (the base system) contained two 12,000 gallon (gal) storage tanks
below the 1st floor loading dock. A duplex pump set on the 1st floor supplied fuel to a
275 gal capacity day tank in the 5th floor Generator Room and to a 50 gal capacity
engine-mounted day tank on the 9th floor. A second duplex pump set supplied fuel from
these storage tanks to a 275 gal day tank on the 8th floor. A 6,000 gal above ground
storage tank on the 1st floor connected to a second pump set supplied a 275 gal day tank
on the 7th floor. The sub-systems that comprised the base system were similarly designed
but were independently operated by the fuel pump set controllers for each system.

The second fuel oil distribution system was supplied by two 6,000 gal storage tanks
located under the loading dock. A duplex pump set on the 1st floor supplied fuel oil to
nine generators on the 5th floor. Since there was already a day tank on the 5th floor
associated with the base system and the New York City Building Code did not permit
more than one day tank per floor, this system used a continuously pressurized fuel supply
piping system without a day tank."

  (CONTINUALLY PRESSURIZED FUEL SUPPLY PIPING SYSTEM.  Just wanted to make sure you saw that.)

2. How come no list of passengers for any of the four 9-11 crashed planes has even been made known, or their survivors' families heard from?

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/main.html

3. How do you explain the molten metal that lasted for weeks under Building 7?

  Metal melts.  Refractory minerals insulate.

Just scratching the surface. The extraordinary claims are that 18 Arabs (whom more than a few of are still alive,) did it.

k00k-a-d00dle-d0000!

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