[Peace-discuss] Flag issues

[Linda Evans]

And please don't expect everyone to fit into the "2
camps" either.  Rarely, can anyone in AWARE (or
anywhere else) fit inside such a neat and tidy box.

I know I haven't been involved in AWARE for a while,
but I didn't think we had a goal of "speaking with one
voice".  Everyone involved with AWARE is anti-war and
anti-racism, but how they get there and where that
takes them is completely individual.

Linda
--- Bob Illyes <illyes at uiuc.edu> wrote:

> Hi Joe.
> 
> You may have missed some of the flag-related posts
> because some
> were sent to Peace rather than PeaceDiscuss, where
> they should
> have been sent.
> 
> I too agree with Bob and Tom.
> 
> There are two camps at AWARE:
> 
> 1) If you're not offending the other side, you're
> not making
> a difference.
> 
> 2) If you're not building bridges to the other side,
> you're not
> making a difference.
> 
> Camp one measures its success in terms of how many
> people it makes
> angry. This camp tends to be anti-American (thinks
> that America is
> one of the worst countries on earth), and is
> profoundly pessimistic
> about democracy and the ability of ordinary people
> to make correct
> decisions, even if they possess all relevant facts,
> i.e., it is
> elitist. But have no fear- the world will be saved
> if enough
> people are in a rage.....  Right. By what mechanism,
> I ask. By the
> magic of Hegelian dialectic, perhaps?
> 
> Camp two measures its success in terms of how many
> civil but substantive
> conversations it's had with people who disagree with
> it. This is the
> larger group in AWARE. If it ever ceases to be the
> larger group, I
> will leave AWARE, because it will have become part
> of the problem rather
> than part of the solution.
> 
> Please don't expect one voice from AWARE regarding
> the flag- it isn't
> possible.
> 
> Bob
> 
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Linda 
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