[Peace-discuss] Ron Paul oppose even birthright citizenship for "illegal aliens"

[Karen Medina]

> Israel's Right of Return 

The US kind of does the same thing. Anyone born to 2 parents who are US citizens is considered a US citizen even if s/he is born in Ireland, or on a military base in the Middle East, or to Peace Corps Volunteers in Ghana.

-karen medina

Obviously, he has not heard about Israel's
>   Right of Return which gives all Jews born anywhere
>   the right to Israeli citizenship; or the old
>   colonial empires that gave citizenship to anyone
>   born anywhere in the empire.
>
>    
>
>   From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
>   [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On
>   Behalf Of Matt Reichel
>   Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 1:32 PM
>   To: Ricky Baldwin; peace discuss
>   Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Ron Paul oppose even
>   birthright citizenship for "illegal aliens"
>
>    
>
>   Ron Paul: "No other wealthy, western nations grant
>   automatic citizenship to those who simply happen to
>   be born within their borders to non-citizens. These
>   nations recognize that citizenship involves more
>   than the physical location of one's birth; it also
>   involves some measure of cultural connection and
>   allegiance."
>
>   This is just simply wrong, and demonstrates his
>   inexperience in the field of international law. The
>   idea that one attains citizenship by being born in a
>   nation's borders is called Jus Solis (right of the
>   soil) in legal jargon. Generally, countries have
>   taken this approach or what is called Jus Sanguinis
>   (right of the blood). Obviously, since the United
>   States has always been a pluralistic nation with no
>   single conception of  ethnic identity (such as in
>   Germany, Italy, France etc . . ), Jus Solis was and
>   is the only option. The concept is rooted in common
>   law, and as such, has always been the practice of
>   her majesty's empire, and continues to be the
>   practice in the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada,
>   and New Zealand. France also operates with a
>   modified form of Jus Solis, and Germany, despite
>   historically being a Jus Sanguinis country, has
>   switched to a modified form of Jus Solis. All of
>   these countries have considerable more state
>   protections for their working class populations than
>   the United States (what Ron Paul dismissively refers
>   to as the "Welfare State").
>
>   Wonderful that Ron Paul is against the war, and has
>   been more principled in his legislative record than
>   most Democrats on the issue of war. He's still an
>   imbecile like the rest of his party!!
>
>   -
>   mer
>
>   > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:01:57 -0800
>   > From: baldwinricky at yahoo.com
>   > To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>   > Subject: [Peace-discuss] Ron Paul oppose even
>   birthright citizenship for "illegal aliens"
>   >
>   > In his own words ...
>   >
>   > http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul346.html
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
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