[Peace-discuss] Ron Paul supports Democratic leadership, votes twice against Kucinich impeachment bill

[Vegan Linda]

I agree!  I don't understand why we aren't all supporting kucinich.

Linda

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On Nov 8, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com> wrote:

Well, THAT's a blunt instrument, and as such not really accurate.  

But what about the issue of Kucinich vs Paul?  It's pretty clear, and not just from this example,
that Kucinich is head and shoulders more worthy of support from an anti-racist anti-war movement
interested in promoting principles, especially one with any hint of social justice (e.g. folks
interested in universal healthcare, public assistance for the poor, things like that.)

I can see the logic of a strategy like voting for Ron Paul to maximize disruption in the GOP, but
I think we'd more likely outsmart ourselves.  We don't have the numbers or the discipline to
really strategize effectively.  Even if we did, what message do we send to the Democrats (who may
win) with decreasing support for Kucinich?

Ricky

--- "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:

So Ron Paul is exposed as a Democratic Party hack on the issue of 
Cheney's impeachment -- i.e., a hack to that Democratic Party leadership 
whose appropriations for the war (with "timetables," of course) you've 
supported throughout the year...?  --CGE


Robert Naiman wrote:
Kucinich's impeachment bill against Cheney was voted twice on in the
House today.

The Democratic leadership first tried to kill debate by tabling the
Kucinich bill. This failed, because a substantial minority of
Democrats was supported by a majority of Republicans in opposing the
Democratic leadership motion to table. Ron Paul voted with the
Democratic leadership and against both the Kucinich Democratic bloc
and the Republican majority to kill debate.

Then the Democratic leadership sent the bill to die - at least so they
hope - at the Judiciary committee. This vote was almost entirely on
party lines. Overwhelmingly, Democrats voted to send the bill to
committee. Only 4 Democrats voted with Kucinich not to send the bill
to committee: Filner, Kaptur, Towns and Waters.

Conversely, Republicans voted overwhelmingly against killing the bill
by sending it to committee. Only 4 Republicans voted with the
Democratic leadership to kill the Cheney impeachment bill.

Who were those four Republicans? Well, one of them was Ron Paul.

Ron Paul - Democratic Party Hack.

1st vote:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll1037.xml

2nd vote:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll1039.xml
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