[Peace-discuss] Urbana City Council meeting last night

Karen Medina kmedina at uiuc.edu
Wed Apr 16 11:16:24 CDT 2008


David,

I choose to take a stand based on what I believe is right or wrong in a given situation, not based on whether I hate or love the group being attacked or doing the attacking.

-karen medina

---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:40:12 -0700 (PDT)
>From: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>  
>Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Urbana City Council meeting last night  
>To: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>
>   I'm not sure why you would support such a suit. I
>   would say that "the Jewish community" (that is, the
>   Zionist element) might in fact be smart enough not
>   to sue Brumleve, which would cast them more
>   clearly in the role of bullies than victims. They
>   mainly want to shut down UPTV, although I'm not sure
>   if they actually know about other, enlightened
>   programs that reveal the situation in the Middle
>   East, which I'm sure they would also label
>   anti-semitic. We shouldn't let them, and we should
>   go to the heart of their motives in making our case.
>   They're not pulling any punches, why should we?
>
>   Karen Medina <kmedina at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>     I would say that if the Jewish community decides
>     to sue Mr. Brumleve, I would support such an
>     action.
>
>     However, the complaints against UPTV are
>     misdirected.
>
>     There were calls for UPTV to stop taking any third
>     party material (like the stuff Brumleve submitted
>     which was produced by Rev.Ted Pike of the National
>     Prayer Network) and take only locally produced
>     material. "Democracy Now" is third party material,
>     just as an example of what such a rule would mean.
>
>     There were calls to shut down UPTV altogether.
>
>     There were calls to make UPTV show only
>     governmental and educational materials. However,
>     the people need a place as well as the government.
>
>     And, as Durl and Marti pointed out, all these
>     demands fail to understand UPTV and its lack of
>     connection to the Urbana City Council and/or what
>     the commission itself can do.
>
>     There is one other thing I don't get. When the
>     formal proposal for word changes was made, why
>     wasn't the statement more like the "the opinions
>     expressed here don't necessarily express the
>     opinions of this station nor the community." The
>     statement they proposed was something like "the
>     city of Urbana does not condone or endorse speech
>     that promotes fear, hatred, prejudice or
>     discrimination toward any group based on religion,
>     ethnicity, race, gender or sexual orientation."
>
>     -karen medina
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