[Peace-discuss] Urbana City Council meeting last night

Karen Medina kmedina at uiuc.edu
Wed Apr 16 11:19:40 CDT 2008


Brumleve has the right to say the things. And the people who call them lies have the right to call them lies.

-karen medina

---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:49:07 -0500
>From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>  
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Urbana City Council meeting last night  
>To: kmedina at uiuc.edu
>Cc: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>
>How can getting the courts to sanction someone for the content of what 
>they publicize, however despicable, be compatible with free speech?  It 
>seems to me that it's been correctly said that, if you don't believe in 
>free speech for views you despise, you don't believe in it at all. --CGE
>
>Karen Medina wrote:
>> I would say that if the Jewish community decides to sue Mr. Brumleve,
>> I would support such an action.
>> 
>> However, the complaints against UPTV are misdirected.
>> 
>> There were calls for UPTV to stop taking any third party material
>> (like the stuff Brumleve submitted which was produced by Rev.Ted Pike
>> of the National Prayer Network) and take only locally produced
>> material. "Democracy Now" is third party material, just as an example
>> of what such a rule would mean.
>> 
>> There were calls to shut down UPTV altogether.
>> 
>> There were calls to make UPTV show only governmental and educational
>> materials. However, the people need a place as well as the
>> government.
>> 
>> And, as Durl and Marti pointed out, all these demands fail to
>> understand UPTV and its lack of connection to the Urbana City Council
>> and/or what the commission itself can do.
>> 
>> There is one other thing I don't get. When the formal proposal for
>> word changes was made, why wasn't the statement more like the "the
>> opinions expressed here don't necessarily express the opinions of
>> this station nor the community." The statement they proposed was
>> something like "the city of Urbana does not condone or endorse speech
>> that promotes fear, hatred, prejudice or discrimination toward any
>> group based on religion, ethnicity, race, gender or sexual
>> orientation."
>> 
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