[Peace-discuss] Re: The Public i and free speech
Ricky Baldwin
baldwinricky at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 20 17:35:25 CDT 2008
I may or may not understand it, of course, Carl. But I figure you believe in free
speech or you dont. True, a lot of people are willing to make exceptions for explicit
threats but not usually for deleting a few words of disputed claims.
Anyway, your argument is particularly curious in light of previous positions you took.
I seem to recall a leaflet you printed up with AWAREs name on it after AWARE had
read the leaflet and expressed the groups explicit wishes to you: distribute the
leaflet if you like, of course, but without AWAREs permission to use our name, please
(no threat to sue). Hm.
As Ive said many times I agree with you about 95 percent of the time, but I just cant
go here with you.
Ricky
--- "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:
> I don't think you understand what happened in that incident, Ricky. The Public
> i proposed to change substantively what I'd written and publish it over my name.
>
> I had sent them an article, which they had solicited, with the express provision
> that they had my permission to publish it over my name only if I approved
> changes -- but they had no permission to publish it with changes that I hadn't
> approved. I did that because I knew that there were political differences
> between me and them (specifically on the virtues of the Democrats). When I was
> told privately by a member of the editorial board that changes had been made on
> that subject, and they did not seek my approval, I wrote (several times) to
> remind them of the written condition I'd attached.
>
> Only when I received no answer did I write and say that I would sue to defend my
> contract with them. At that point Belden -- apparently the eminence grise of
> the Public i -- called to say that they would publish it only if I withdrew the
> threat to defend the condition under which I'd contributed the piece.
>
> Naturally I refused. At no time did I threaten the Public i's free speech.
> They are obviously free to publish any opinion they want. But they were not
> free to publish my piece without my permission. --CGE
>
> P.S.--The piece in question appears at
> <http://www.counterpunch.org/estabrook04162007.html>.
>
>
> Ricky Baldwin wrote:
> > ... I have to say, in closing, I find it a bit hard to take Carl's defence of
> > free speech totally seriously, given his one-time threat to sue the 'Public
> > i' for having the unmittigated gall to EDIT one such as himself (the
> > nerve!)...
>
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