[Peace-discuss] Fwd: War is illegal - International Declaration

[Brussel Morton K.]

There have been books written about 9/11, both(?) ways, so you will  
not have a definitive answer to your question. I happen to believe  
that a more open and better inquiry about 9/11 would be useful, and  
since I think the rest of the statement is to the point, I'll propose  
that AWARE  sign off on it. Are you not being overly fastidious on this?

--mkb


On Apr 26, 2008, at 10:28 PM, Randall Cotton wrote:

> I'm not sure how I missed it when I first read this statement, but  
> part of
> it says "well documented evidence shows that the official  
> explanation of
> 9/11 cannot be correct." This is in the context of calling for an
> international investigation of the 9/11 events. I support an  
> international
> investigation but while I don't discount the possibility that this  
> claim
> is true, I haven't seriously considered the matter and can neither  
> aver or
> deny the truth of that claim. So I'm not sure I will propose AWARE  
> become
> signatory to this at tomorrow's meeting after all (maybe at a later
> meeting instead). I may revoke my own personal signature to the  
> statement
> as well until I clarify this issue (being a well-executed project,  
> one can
> revoke one's signature simply through e-mail, according to  
> information on
> the website).
>
> Can anyone provide or lead me to unassailable facts showing the  
> truth or
> falsehood of this claim?
>
> R
>
> PS We can speculate infinitely on this matter of course, but I  
> don't think
> that's useful - I'm definitely not suggesting anyone engage in that on
> this list and hope folks will resist any such temptation. Just  
> facts or
> pointers to such, please.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Randall Cotton" <recotton at earthlink.net>
> To: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: War is illegal - International
> Declaration
>
>
> : Hear, Hear!
> :
> : An excellent statement and a serious, well-organized international
> effort.
> :
> : I urge folks to take a moment, read the statement, go to the  
> website and
> : consider signing.
> :
> : I also plan to propose AWARE sign as a group at next week's  
> meeting, so
> : especially if you plan to attend, please have a look at the  
> statement.
> :
> : R
> :
> : PS: One might ask oneself what good can a signature on a German  
> website
> : do? I happen to believe that in the future (however far), well- 
> organized
> : international peace efforts conducted electronically via the  
> Internet
> have
> : the potential to profoundly transform grassroots activism into  
> powerful
> : global forces. Efforts like this in Germany I think offer the first
> : glimmer of what's possible and so it should be supported on that
> principle
> : and not just on the value of its statement. Not every effort  
> deserves
> our
> : attention, but this one seems particularly serious and well- 
> executed.
> :
> : ----- Original Message -----
> : From: "Brussel Morton K." <mkbrussel at comcast.net>
> : To: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> : Cc: <peace at anti-war.net>
> : Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:55 PM
> : Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fwd: War is illegal - International  
> Declaration
> :
> :
> : FYI. Perhaps AWARE should affix its name, as well as individuals.
> :
> : Begin forwarded message:
> :
> : > From: email at hbuecker.net
> : > Date: April 23, 2008 10:21:07 PM CDT
> : > To: brussel at uiuc.edu
> : > Subject: War is illegal - International Declaration
> : >
> : >
> : >  Please take a look at  war-is-illegal.org
> : > an international declaration initiated by shops and international
> : > artists in Berlin
> : >
> : > If you would like to have your name added to the list please reply
> : > to this e-mail
> : > send name or name of organisation - work or activity - city/ 
> country
> : > - and a website address if you like
> : >
> : > Thank you very much
> : > Heinrich Buecker
> : > Coop Cafe,  Berlin, Rochstr.3
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > War is illegal
> : >
> : > Against a background of escalating ecological crises, and the fact
> : > that large parts of the world´s population are being exposed to
> : > extreme poverty, inhuman working conditions and increasing social
> : > tensions, the annual global military expenditure has risen to more
> : > than 1000 billion dollars.
> : > The military-industrial complex of just a few G8 countries is
> : > responsible for the overwhelming part of this spending, causing
> : > incalcuable social and ecological consequences.
> : >
> : > Unequal distribution of global resources, increasingly controlled
> : > by large multinational companies, global debt policy and unfair
> : > international trading practices ultimately could not be maintained
> : > without military security. In many countries the military is used
> : > to repress critical opposition.
> : >
> : > The terror attacks of September 11, 2001 are increasingly used to
> : > justify systematic surveillance and the dismantling of
> : > constitutional rights. Even European countries have helped to
> : > establish Guantanomo-like secret prisons, where torture in all
> : > probability takes place.
> : >
> : > Iraq was attacked based on falsified evidence causing the death of
> : > hundreds of thousands of people, widespread destruction,
> : > destabilization and contamination with cancer-causing depleted
> : > uranium munitions.
> : > Now plans to attack Iran and the possibility of a new World War
> : > have been made public, meeting resistance even from moderate
> : > elements within the military due to the unforeseeable  
> consequences.
> : >
> : > Faced with the choice between a war, that according to some  
> western
> : > leaders, will last for many years or a possible peaceful
> : > transformation we support the following demands:
> : >
> : > 1) Impeachment proceedings against US President Bush and US Vice
> : > President Cheney before the 2008 election, a demand raised in
> : > solidarity with large parts of the US public and some members  
> of US
> : > Congress. Furthermore prosecution by the International Court of
> : > Justice of G. W. Bush, R. Cheney and other officials from various
> : > countries for waging wars of aggression contrary to international
> : > law and committing crimes against humanity.
> : >
> : > 2) International investigation of the September 11, 2001 terror
> : > attacks. They are used as the central justification for the  
> "War on
> : > Terror", but well documented evidence shows that the official
> : > explanation of 9/11 cannot be correct. International personalities
> : > in science, politics, and culture, including high-ranking military
> : > veterans, have called for a new investigation.
> : >
> : > 3) Immediate military withdrawal from Afghanistan and Iraq, and no
> : > attack against Iran. International prohibition of war as a  
> means of
> : > conflict resolution. Military intervention and export of weapons
> : > should be criminalized.
> : > In a civilized society torture must be prohibited in any form.
> : >
> : > 4) Conversion of military industries to civilian purposes and the
> : > development of ecological and sustainable energy resources.
> : > According to the UN environmental agency, a fraction of the annual
> : > global defence expenditure could ensure that all humans have  
> access
> : > to clean water and a basic supply of food and healthcare.
> : >
> : > This statement is based on a commitment to non-violence and
> : > tolerance of all ethnic groups and religions. Two devastating  
> World
> : > Wars and historical catastrophes like the Nazi Holocaust must
> : > always remind us of the worst consequences of nationalism, racism
> : > and incitement to war.
> : >
> : > Sign this statement, pass it on, whatever we can do. It is up  
> to us.
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : > signed by 1200 groups, businesses and individuals:
> : >
> : > to see websites of most signatories go to www.war-is-illegal.org
> : >
> : >
> : > David Swanson - Co-founder Impeachment Coalition- USA
> : > Nina Hagen - Musician - Berlin/Germany
> : > Cynthia McKinney -US Presidential Candidate, Green Party 2008
> : > CODEPINK Women for Peace - co-founder Gael Murphy- USA
> : > Green Party of Washington State - Maryrose Asher, Chair - USA
> : > Dr. Axel Troost - Member of German parliament - Bremen/Germany
> : > Jonah House - Community/Nonviolence/Resistance - Baltimore/USA
> : > Ko Un - Poet and Writer -Ansong/South Korea
> : > Food Not Bombs - co-founder Keith McHenry- NM/USA
> : > Eckart Spoo - Editor of biweekly magazine "Ossietzky"- Berlin/ 
> Germany
> : > Felicia Langer - Alternative Nobel Prize Laureate - Tüb./Germany
> : > Nebraskans for Peace-Statewide peace & justice organization-
> : > Lincoln, NE/USA
> : > Grassrootsamerica4us - Founder Tina Richards - USA -
> : > grassrootsamerica4us.org
> : > Dr. Motte - Founder Loveparade, Musician, DJ - Berlin/Germany
> : > Michael Parenti Ph.D. - political author & scholar - Berkeley,  
> Cal./
> : > USA
> : > Harold Barclay, PhD. - Prof. Anthropology University Alberta -
> : > Edmonton/Canada
> : > The Internationale of Military Draft Resisters- Berlin/Germany.
> : > Combatants For Peace - Palestinian-Israeli Peace - Palestine
> : > Renate Bahr - Co-Founder of Green Party Austria
> : > Dr. Stefan Silber - spokesperson Pax Christi- Sailauf/Germany
> : > Carsten Labudda -politician, DIE LINKE -Weinheim/Germany
> : > Green Party of Delaware - David A. McCorquodale, Treasure - USA
> : > Karin Gaulke - Projectsecretary Women Center Marie e.V. - Berlin/
> : > Germany
> : > Inge Keller - honorary member Deutsches Theater Berlin - Germany
> : > Heike Haensel - Member of German parliament - Tüb./Germany
> : > Seasolarstore - Energy Alternatives Inc. - Barrington, NH/USA
> : > Ekkehard Sieker - TV-Journalist - Bad Hönningen/Germany
> : > Peace Not War Japan -Raising awareness about peace -Tokyo/Japan
> : > Freewayblogger - 3000 antiwar highway signs - California/USA
> : > Phil Burk - Restoring Democracy - USA
> : > Richard Sanders - Coalition to Oppose the Arms-Trade --Ottawa/ 
> Canada
> : > Hedva Shemesh- Artist, Art Curator- Jerusalem/Israel
> : > Coalition to Reaffirm and Extend the Geneva Conventions-Eugene,  
> OR/USA
> : > Anas Karzai, Ph.D - Professor of Sociology - Barrie, Ontario/ 
> Canada
> : > Billionaires for Bush- Corporate Lobbyists - USA
> : > Hans Boës - Futurologist - Berlin/Germany
> : > Tom Santoni - Veterans For Peace - musician - Hastings, Florida/ 
> USA
> : > Barbara Waschmann - Documentary Film Festival - Vienna/Austria
> : > AlternaTees- Sweatshop-Free Tees for Peace - Brooklyn, NY/USA
> : > Peace Movement Aotearoa - Peace Organisation - Aotearoa/New  
> Zealand
> : > Antinuclear.net - Christina Macpherson - Melbourne/Australia
> : > Olaf Brühl - Film Director - Berlin/Germany
> : > Querkopf e.V.- Homeless & Unemployed Newspaper Berlin/Germany
> : > TUC Radio - Independent Radio - San Francisco/USA
> : > Carlos Latuff - Cartoonist - Rio de Janeiro/Brazil
> : > Indymedia Perth - Ray Grenfell, editor - Perth/Australia
> : > Unite - Union of Workers - Auckland/New Zealand
> : > Peace NO War Network - Lee Siu Hin - Los Angeles, CA/USA
> : > Consumers for Peace - Peekskill, New York/USA
> : > The Camp for Climate Action 2007- Leeds/UK
> : > Ole Lehmann - Comedian, actor - Berlin/Germany
> : > Charleston Peace - Anna Shockley - Charleston, SC, USA
> : > Art Voices Against Poverty - Anne Radstaak - Germany
> : > Wales Network for Peace & Nonviolence - Cardiff/UK
> : > Peacetaxseven - No taxes for financing war - United Kingdom
> : > SAWA - Support Association for the Women of Afghanistan -  
> Australia
> : > Midwest Independent Film Festival - Chicago, IL, USA
> : >  agitart.org Artist/Activist collaborative - Los Angeles/Boston/ 
> USA
> : > Dr. Maximilian C. Forte - Ass. Professor, Anthropology - Montreal/
> : > Canada
> : > Dr. Matthias Beier- Psychoanalyst, Scholar of Religion -NYC/USA
> : > South Florida Raging Grannies-Promoting Peace, Justice, Equality-
> : > Florida/USA
> : > Murat Karabey -Actor - Berlin/German
> : > Humanist Party of India -Sudhir Gandotra - Delhi/India
> : > Brian Willson - USAF VN Vet, Veterans For Peace -Arcata, CA/USA
> : > Permakultur Austria - Sustainable Living -Austria
> : > Kolahstudio - Iranian Urban Art Movement - Teheran/Iran
> : > Mondo Senza Guerre- Disarmo e Nonviolenza - Italy
> : > Workers Solidarity- Antonio Rus Serrano- Madrid/Spain
> : > Susan Dorothea White- Artist, Author - Sydney/Australia
> : > Joe Kincheloe- Professor (McGill University) - Montreal/Canada
> : > Kurt Daims- Vermont Town Petition to arrest Bush/Cheney -
> : > Brattleboro, VT/USA
> : > Environmentalists Against War- Gar Smith, co-founder -  
> Berkeley, CA/
> : > USA
> : > Farah Notash- Artist, Left Unity - Vienna/Austria
> : > Angie Zelter- Peace and environmental campaigner UK
> : > Ukhampacha Bolivia- Indigenous Journalism - La Paz/Bolivia
> : > Demokratische Linke - Landesverband Berlin/Germany
> : > Global Coalition for Peace - Bethesda MD, USA
> : > Elke Zwinge-Makamizile - documentary maker- Berlin/Germany
> : > Café Zapata - Club, Café - Oranienburgerstr. 55 Berlin/Germany
> : > Mohawk Nation News - Sovereignty for the Kanionke:haka
> : > Sebastian Reuter- sounddesigner - Berlin/Germany
> : > Ralf Mischnick - filmproduction - Berlin/Germany
> : > Dirk Szuszies - film- & theatre director - Berlin/Germany
> : > Middle East Children\'s Alliance - Barbara Lubin - Berkeley,CA/USA
> : > Maryland United for Peace & Justice-Annual Peace Conference - USA
> : > Norwich Stop the War Coalition- P. Offord - Norwich UK-
> : > Zion Train - Dub/Reggae Band - London/UK
> : > Dub Is A Weapon - Dave Hahn, musician- New York/USA
> : > Portland Radio Authority - Alternative Radio - Portland, OR/USA
> : > AVC Inc. -Trifon Haitas (Green Party) -Toronto/Canada
> : > Curare e. V. - human rights organisation- Köln/Germany
> : > Left Wing German Greens -Ralf Henze -Dannstadt/Germany
> : > Elizabeth Barger-Artist for Peace-The Farm, Summertown, TN/USA
> : > Hartford Catholic Worker Community -Christopher J. Doucot - 
> Hartford
> : > CT/USA
> : > Thomas Reinert - steering committee B90/Green Party KV Coesfeld -
> : > Dülmen/Germany
> : > DAWN -DuPage Against War Now, Glen Ellyn-ClevelandIllinois/USA
> : > United-For-Peace.org -Network for Peace -Germany
> : > Malachy Kilbride -President  Wwashingtonpeacecenter.net
> : > Jenny Watson - member of Pais (War Resisters International)
> : > Netherlands
> : > Vegan Society Austria -Felix Hnat -Vienna/Austria
> : > People for Peace and Justice of Utah - grassroots movement - UT/ 
> USA
> : > Carol Brouillet -Green Party candidate for Congress- Palo Alto,  
> CA/USA
> : > The July 7th Truth Campaign -London, UK
> : > Else Tonke - Grandmothers against War - Berlin/Germany
> : > Australian War Criminal Watch -Sydney, Australia-
> : > australianwarcriminals.jitgede.com
> : > SONAD- Organisation for Nonviolence & Development, Light Aganwa -
> : > Khartoum/Sudan
> : > Elfriede Krutsch - Medical Doctor, member of ATTAC and IPPNW. -
> : > Berlin/Germany
> : > Lynn Meadows - Green Party, Interfaith Council for Peace. -
> : > Chelsea, MI, USA
> : > Nepal Peace Party- Chair Bolaram Pandey - Kathmandu/Nepal
> : > Robert Lewis - writer/filmmaker - Montreal, Canada
> : > Campaign to Make War History -London/UK
> : > Friendship and Peace Society - President Ellen Rosser -USA
> : > Matthew Buechler - 2008 March On Ottawa-Ottawa/Canada
> : > Bo Filter -Author, M.A., Psychology-Court.,  BC, Canada
> : > Hermesse Julie -antropologist- Brussels, Belgium
> : > Peter Bader- Verein der Deutsch-Balten Estlands - Tallinn,Estonia
> : > Ralf Pandorf - Redakteur LabourNet Germany - Bochum/Germany
> : > K. Bracken - Secretary Victoria Branch Maritime Union of Australia
> : > Geoffrey Hagopian - Professor of Mathematics - Palm Desert, CA,  
> USA
> : > Mira Svartnes Thorsen - The Green Party Norway
> : > Heidi Kloor - secretary ver.di Union - Berlin/Germany
> : > Paul Craig Roberts -Former assistant editor, Wall St Journal -  
> FL, USA
> : > European Agency for Safety at Sea - Anders Björkman - Beausoleil,
> : > France
> : > Emmanuel Herchy - Professor for political science-Berlin, Germany
> : > Fritz Vilmar- Professor for political science - Berlin/Germany
> : > Women Against Military Madness - Polly Mann - MN, USA
> : > Jean-Claude Englebert - ECOLO (Belgian Greens) - Brussels/Belgium
> : > CONTEMPL8- Propaganda T-shirt Maker - MN, USA
> : > Cristina Gay- Speaker UNE AUTRE GAUCHE - Belgium
> : > Robert W. Halfhill- Green Party, Gay Activist-MN, USA
> : > Sabine Schwenk - DIE LINKE Kreisverband Alzey-Worms
> : > J. Benninger -Partner,  White Rose Coffeehouse - Canada
> : > Gillian Norman- Dir./Prod. Avante Films - Sydney, Australia -
> : > Will Thomas- Member of Veterans for Peace - Auburn, NH USA
> : > Stefan Dolge - Koordination Attac Essen - Germany
> : > Z-Bar - Bar, Art, Culture, Cinema  Berlin, Germany
> : > Florian Gross - Co-Founder, Reopen 911 - Geneva, Switzerland
> : > Robert Layton - Internat. Arbitrator - Lakeville, CT & NYC, USA
> : > Dissident Voice- Kim Petersen, editor dissidentvoice.org - Anyang,
> : > Korea
> : > Marie Kullman - Coordinator for Buffalo War Resisters League - USA
> : > Rev. Robert Mills - Minister Logos Institute of Spiritual Humanism
> : > - Oakland Ca USA
> : > Helene von Kolontay- DIE LINKE KV Daun - Germany
> : > Rachel Gardam -Photographer ICP - New York/ USA
> : > Peter Bürger-Catholic Theologian, Publisher-Duesseldorf, Germany-
> : > friedensbilder.de
> : > Irina Sels - Director - European School Parents Association.-
> : > Brussels, Belgium
> : > Dr. D. Fehrentz - chair Ass. of Victims of persecution by the Nazi
> : > Regime VVN-BdA Heidelberg
> : > Adam Kokesh - Iraq Veteran, US Marines -Santa Fe, NM, USA
> : > Rick Pickett - Designer - Berkeley, CA, USA
> : > Peter Simpson- Co-founder, Futenma-Henoko Network-Okinawa, Japan-
> : > www.fhan.org
> : > Bob & Adele DellaValle-Rauth- Missionaries to Haiti, Coord. Pax
> : > Christi Virginia - USA
> : > Nancy O’Byrne- Coordinator, Pax Christi Northeast Florida - St.
> : > Augustine, USA
> : > Rosemarie Pace- Director Pax Christi Metro New York - New York,  
> NY,
> : > USA
> : > Daniel Tillias - Peace Worker -Haiti
> : > John Downing -Pax Christi Pentagon Area -Arlington, VA, USA
> : > Klaus Hartmann -Chairman of German Freethinker Association
> : >
> : > now more than 1200 signatories online:
> : > www.war-is-illegal.org
> : >
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