[Peace-discuss] Not that Obama's any better

Jenifer Cartwright jencart13 at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 29 00:04:11 CDT 2008


Three hours, huh. Well, maybe that explains the subject line, then. That kinda nasty stuff rubs off real easy.
   --Jenifer

"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:
  But it's important that a certain primitive psychological splitting doesn't lead 
people to imagine that Hillary's awfulness makes Obama look good.

And BTW I had a long auto trip last week and listened to Limbaugh's full three- 
hour show. It's interesting to hear how he does it. What he says is nuts and 
worse, but he has polished a rhetorical form that's supple and inventive. It's 
good audio theatre. --CGE


Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> Good article, Carl. Thanks for posting it. However, the subject line 
> should have read "Hillary Strangelove" as that's what the editorial is 
> about. "Not that Obama's any better" is off-topic and soooo totally Rush 
> Limbaugh/Bill O'Reilly.
> --Jenifer 
> 
> */"C. G. Estabrook" /* wrote:
> 
> GLOBE EDITORIAL
> Hillary Strangelove
> April 27, 2008
> 
> AMERICANS have learned to take with a grain of salt much of the
> rhetoric in a
> campaign like the current Democratic donnybrook between Hillary
> Clinton and
> Barack Obama. Still, there are some red lines that should never be
> crossed.
> Clinton did so Tuesday morning, the day of the Pennsylvania primary,
> when she
> told ABC's "Good Morning America" that, if she were president, she
> would
> "totally obliterate" Iran if Iran attacked Israel.
> 
> This foolish and dangerous threat was muted in domestic media
> coverage. But it
> reverberated in headlines around the world.
> 
> Responding with understatement to a question in the British House of
> Lords, the
> foreign minister responsible for Asia, Lord Mark Malloch-Brown, said of
> Clinton's implication of a mushroom cloud over Iran: "While it is
> reasonable to
> warn Iran of the consequences of it continuing to develop nuclear
> weapons and
> what those real consequences bring to its security, it is probably
> not prudent
> in today's world to threaten to obliterate any other country and in
> many cases
> civilians resident in such a country."
> 
> A less restrained reaction came from an editorial in the Saudi-based
> paper Arab
> News. Being neighbors of Iran, the Saudis and the other Gulf Arabs
> have the most
> to fear from Iran's nuclear program and its drive to become the
> dominant power
> in the Gulf.
> 
> But precisely because they are most at risk from Iran's regional
> ambitions, the
> Saudis want a carefully considered American approach to Iran, one
> that balances
> firmness and diplomatic engagement.
> 
> The Saudi paper called Clinton's nuclear threat "the foreign
> politics of the
> madhouse," saying, "it demonstrates the same doltish ignorance that has
> distinguished Bush's foreign relations."
> 
> The Saudis are not always sound advisers on American foreign policy.
> But they
> understand that Rambo rhetoric like Clinton's only plays into the
> hands of
> Iranian hard-liners who want to plow ahead with efforts to attain a
> nuclear
> weapons capability. They argue that Iran must have that capability
> in order to
> deter the United States from doing what Clinton threatened to do.
> 
> While Clinton has hammered Obama for supporting military strikes in
> Pakistan,
> her comments on Iran are much more far-reaching. She seems not to
> realize that
> she undermined Iranian reformists and pragmatists. The Iranian
> people have been
> more favorable to America than any other in the Gulf region or the
> Middle East.
> 
> A presidential candidate who lightly commits to obliterating Iran -
> and,
> presumably, all the children, parents, and grandparents in Iran -
> should not be
> answering the White House phone at any time of day or night.
> 
> ###
> 
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