[Peace-discuss] Not that ... Hillary Strangelove

Jenifer Cartwright jencart13 at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 29 09:25:32 CDT 2008


"True" only in YOUR reality, Carl :-)

"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:  No, the subject line is explained by the fact that it's true, and the opposite 
implication is false.

Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> Three hours, huh. Well, maybe that explains the subject line, then. That 
> kinda nasty stuff rubs off real easy.
> --Jenifer
> 
> */"C. G. Estabrook" /* wrote:
> 
> But it's important that a certain primitive psychological splitting
> doesn't lead
> people to imagine that Hillary's awfulness makes Obama look good.
> 
> And BTW I had a long auto trip last week and listened to Limbaugh's
> full three-
> hour show. It's interesting to hear how he does it. What he says is
> nuts and
> worse, but he has polished a rhetorical form that's supple and
> inventive. It's
> good audio theatre. --CGE
> 
> 
> Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> > Good article, Carl. Thanks for posting it. However, the subject line
> > should have read "Hillary Strangelove" as that's what the
> editorial is
> > about. "Not that Obama's any better" is off-topic and soooo
> totally Rush
> > Limbaugh/Bill O'Reilly.
> > --Jenifer
> >
> > */"C. G. Estabrook" /* wrote:
> >
> > GLOBE EDITORIAL
> > Hillary Strangelove
> > April 27, 2008
> >
> > AMERICANS have learned to take with a grain of salt much of the
> > rhetoric in a
> > campaign like the current Democratic donnybrook between Hillary
> > Clinton and
> > Barack Obama. Still, there are some red lines that should never be
> > crossed.
> > Clinton did so Tuesday morning, the day of the Pennsylvania primary,
> > when she
> > told ABC's "Good Morning America" that, if she were president, she
> > would
> > "totally obliterate" Iran if Iran attacked Israel.
> >
> > This foolish and dangerous threat was muted in domestic media
> > coverage. But it
> > reverberated in headlines around the world.
> >
> > Responding with understatement to a question in the British House of
> > Lords, the
> > foreign minister responsible for Asia, Lord Mark Malloch-Brown,
> said of
> > Clinton's implication of a mushroom cloud over Iran: "While it is
> > reasonable to
> > warn Iran of the consequences of it continuing to develop nuclear
> > weapons and
> > what those real consequences bring to its security, it is probably
> > not prudent
> > in today's world to threaten to obliterate any other country and in
> > many cases
> > civilians resident in such a country."
> >
> > A less restrained reaction came from an editorial in the Saudi-based
> > paper Arab
> > News. Being neighbors of Iran, the Saudis and the other Gulf Arabs
> > have the most
> > to fear from Iran's nuclear program and its drive to become the
> > dominant power
> > in the Gulf.
> >
> > But precisely because they are most at risk from Iran's regional
> > ambitions, the
> > Saudis want a carefully considered American approach to Iran, one
> > that balances
> > firmness and diplomatic engagement.
> >
> > The Saudi paper called Clinton's nuclear threat "the foreign
> > politics of the
> > madhouse," saying, "it demonstrates the same doltish ignorance
> that has
> > distinguished Bush's foreign relations."
> >
> > The Saudis are not always sound advisers on American foreign policy.
> > But they
> > understand that Rambo rhetoric like Clinton's only plays into the
> > hands of
> > Iranian hard-liners who want to plow ahead with efforts to attain a
> > nuclear
> > weapons capability. They argue that Iran must have that capability
> > in order to
> > deter the United States from doing what Clinton threatened to do.
> >
> > While Clinton has hammered Obama for supporting military strikes in
> > Pakistan,
> > her comments on Iran are much more far-reaching. She seems not to
> > realize that
> > she undermined Iranian reformists and pragmatists. The Iranian
> > people have been
> > more favorable to America than any other in the Gulf region or the
> > Middle East.
> >
> > A presidential candidate who lightly commits to obliterating Iran -
> > and,
> > presumably, all the children, parents, and grandparents in Iran -
> > should not be
> > answering the White House phone at any time of day or night.
> >
> > ###
> >
> >
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