[Peace-discuss] Inauguration thoughts
C. G. Estabrook
galliher at uiuc.edu
Mon Dec 1 12:56:43 CST 2008
*Not* demonstrating at the inauguration is an example of being "creative in what
can be done to change he current policies"?
Brussel Morton K. wrote:
> Some are trying to be creative in what can be done to change the current
> policies, not simply ranting about what one doesn't like.
>
> I've been following the comments on the UFPJ on the listserve, and KZ is
> no fawning Democrat.
>
> --mkb
>
> On Dec 1, 2008, at 11:34 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>
>> "We don't pull people to us by protesting at his party."
>>
>> That's ridiculous. The anti-war movement continues its abject
>> capitulation to the Democrats -- "sticking close to Nurse / for fear
>> of something Worse," as the poet has it.
>>
>> Can we please ask that nice Mr. Obama and his SECURITY TEAM to please,
>> maybe, if it would not be too much trouble, and if they won't frighten
>> us with that awful Sarah Palin again, to please, well, maybe just
>> think about stopping killing people...? (Of course we'll understand
>> if the TEAM has to keep doing it...)
>>
>> Three out of four eligible voters did NOT vote for Obama, and many who
>> did, did so not because they approved of his policies -- which were
>> not considered in the campaign, being identical in important matters
>> from those of his opponents -- but because his carefully-arranged
>> opposition was worse.
>>
>> We should do all we can to demonstrate against the murderous and
>> unbroken policies of the US government. --CGE
>>
>>
>> Brussel Morton K. wrote:
>>> These thoughts come from the UFPJ listserve, in which it was
>>> suggested that there be protests at the inauguration ceremonies in
>>> January. Its author is one Kevin Zeese.
>>> While I share John's [Walsh] views on the national security team
>>> Obama has appointed and expect that these are the people who will be
>>> running foreign policy for the next two years while Obama focuses
>>> domesticallly, the peace movement needs to figure out what -- if any
>>> -- message at the inagurartion will be effective.
>>> Most Obama supporters, even the apolitical ones, want to see the
>>> Iraq war ended. They agree with us even though they voted for
>>> Obama. Indeed, many, many peace activists supported Obama despite
>>> his weak foreign policy positions and proclaimed victory when he won
>>> the election. So, the crowd that will be at the inaguration will be
>>> with us on the Iraq issue but also be with Obama, celebrating his
>>> presidency. We need to pull people to our position and develop a
>>> broad protest movement against Obama's foreign policy positions --
>>> which we know we willl not like. We don't pull people to us by
>>> protesting at his party. It just will not be effective, indeed it
>>> will marginalize more than broaden the peace movement. Communication
>>> needs to serve the purpose of broadening the peace movement not
>>> making us feel good by shouting our anger. Effective communication
>>> is the goal.
>>> Carl's [Davidson] approach of building on the "Yes we can" slogan of
>>> Obama is closer to what would be effective. The phrases that come
>>> after "Yes we can" are important. "End the Iraq War NOW" -- with the
>>> emphasis on NOW is one that might work. Expressing the urgency of
>>> now -- another Obama phrase and one that shows that he can stop the
>>> killing now -- he can stop the drones in Pakistan -- now, the
>>> bombings of wedding parties in Afghanistan -- now, Israel getting
>>> out of Palestine - now. The same could be true with other foreign
>>> policy issues. After inaguration these killings in Pakistan etc.
>>> willl be Obama's responsibility as he does have the power to stop
>>> them now.
>>> We have to walk a fine line of demonstrating our independence for
>>> Obama, but at this stage of his presidency, especially inaguration
>>> day, showing hope for the new administration -- despite our
>>> expectation that hopes willl be dashed, rather quickly.
>>
>
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