[Peace-discuss] UFPJ desires ...

[C. G. Estabrook]

I'm not sure how you mean "pseudo-Marxist."  How e.g. does it differ from real 
Marxist?

Are you denying that there are economic and geopolitical motives for US invasion 
and occupation of the Middle East?  If, e.g., the principal product of Iraq were 
asparagus, would we have half the US military there?

But I see no examples of genocide (a word coined in the mid-20th century and now 
used primarily for propaganda purposes) in the current Middle East.

The extent to which the anti-war movement of 40 years ago would "not allow" war 
in Vietnam to be continued was one of the important factors in bringing that war 
to an end.  We rightly aspire to doing at least as well today.

And to ask Stalin's question about the pope, in regard to UFPJ, is probably a 
good little example of Marx's throw-away line, "Everything in history happens 
twice ... the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce."


Bob Illyes wrote:
> This list includes the usual pseudo-Marxist rant against presumed 
> (capitalist) imperialism, as usual without evidence for such blanket 
> statements. Strikingly lacking is any concern regarding genocide. We are 
> presumably supposed to stand idly by and allow it to happen. It would be good
> to strip out the empire nonsense if this is to be distributed as an AWARE
> rather than a UFPJ brochure.
> 
> It interests me that UFPJ "will not allow war...to be carried out". I am 
> tempted to ask "and how many divisions does UFPJ have?"