[Peace-discuss] A curious omission by the News-Gazette

[John W.]

On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:12 PM, LAURIE SOLOMON <LAURIE at advancenet.net>wrote:

I find it interesting that in his movie, The Slacker Uprising, Michael Moore
> also told those who did not vote in the election prior to the 2006
> by-election because they had given up on the system to give the system one
> more try before deciding to give up on it.  Not that it has anything to do
> with this discussion, but it was interesting in that, after telling them
> that and getting them to vote, the Democrats got control of both chambers
> of
> Congress and then proceeded to  renege on their promises with respect to
> fighting the Bush policies and reversing many of the actions that were
> taken
> by the Bush Administration.  It appears as if Obama is doing the same sort
> of thing when it comes to meeting the expectations of his base.  This
> leaves
> me to wonder what Michael Moore will be telling the Slackers the next
> election now that they have not only given the system one more try but have
> given it two more tries and got the same result.  I wonder if he will say
> it
> is ok for them to give up on the system now that they have given it those
> extra chances.  I think he will probably forget he ever said that or find
> some way to justify not honoring it.
>
> I make this statement because I think that people put too much faith in
> those who are good propagandists - be they from the right or the left - and
> are selling a point of view or cause.  Just goes to show that the saying
> "we
> won't be fooled again" has been replaced by "there is a sucker born every
> minute, and you just happened to be born at the right moment."  I have to
> also wonder why Moore remains so invested in supporting the system even
> after it failed to work after the 2006 elections and if it fails to work
> again after the 2008 elections? How will he convince future slackers to
> vote
> in future elections given the outcomes of the past ones.  You can only say
> give it one more try once or twice before the appeal looses meaning.


I have no doubt that on some level Michael Moore is the soul of sincerity,
Laurie.  But think about what a superb self-promoter he is, and how he makes
his money.  Wouldn't it be nice to be able to make millions doing what you
enjoy doing, and be perceived as a highly principled human being at the same
time?  Does it get any better than that?

John Wason




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> [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Rachel
> Storm
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 12:21 PM
> To: Rachel Storm; Marti Wilkinson; Randall Cotton
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] A curious omission by the News-Gazette
>
> Oh sheesh, "we're" should  be "weren't"
>
> That changes something...
>



> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Tue,  9 Dec 2008 12:13:26 -0600 (CST)
> >From: Rachel Storm <rstorm2 at illinois.edu>
> >Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] A curious omission by the News-Gazette
> >To: Marti Wilkinson <martiwilki at gmail.com>, Randall Cotton
> <recotton at earthlink.net>
> >Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> >
> >Initially, felt similarly (to Randall) about your response, Marti. Though
> after reading your comment again, I knew you we're necessarily trying to
> defend (perhaps somewhat excuse...) the NG editing. I think some of us are
> so jaded by the media that we come to expect less and less, which is I
> think
> where you're coming from Marti. And I agree with it. Nonetheless, I think
> the only way we can demand better from the media is to find in ourselves
> the
> energy to point out (however relentlessly) the many ways in which the media
> twists and sanitizes a story for the public. Michael Moore made a wonderful
> statement in Slacker Uprising when the media asked whether his movies were
> propaganda. He replied, telling them that if the media did their job that
> he
> wouldn't have to make movies for the purposes of informing the public. You
> can watch the part I'm talking about here on youtube.com:
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiO5ikOU7DU&feature=related
> >
> >Just scroll to 4:50.
> >
> >I think we need to be more critical and in a sense, more pissed off at bad
> journalism.
> >
> >Rachel
>
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