[Peace-discuss] Fw: Support The Nadler Initiative Against The
Planned Bush Blanket Pardons
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigs.ag
Thu Dec 11 17:50:47 CST 2008
**
> *In fact, I myself have suggested*
> *1) civil disobedience,*
> *2) general strikes, and *
> *3) general disruptive behaviors and actions*
> *...) among other things.*
Aha! The Reasoned Recanting of the Pure Critic...
LAURIE SOLOMON wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, this discussion presupposes an either/or set of
> alternatives. You either (1) send cards, letters, and emails, (2)
> make phone calls, and (3) engage in pickets and marches or give up and
> do nothing. But that is not necessarily the case. Several people on
> this list have suggested alternative courses of action only to be told
> that they were too radical, they would alienate the masses or the
> responsible and respectable middle class establishment centrists, or
> they were impractical. In fact, I myself have suggested civil
> disobedience, general strikes, and general disruptive behaviors and
> actions among other things. Many people, including some on the list,
> feel that many of the things that have been suggested are just too
> ineffective and a waste of time; but that does not mean that they are
> saying that they think all actions are ineffective and a waste of
> time. They just do not feel like participating in what they do not
> think will get results. Those on the other side make the same
> arguments and react the same way when actions that they consider too
> radical are proposed.
>
>
>
> *From:* peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
> [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On Behalf Of
> *Jenifer Cartwright
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:18 PM
> *To:* unionyes; E. Wayne Johnson
> *Cc:* Peace-discuss List
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Support The Nadler Initiative
> Against The Planned Bush Blanket Pardons
>
>
>
> Cards, calls, emails,and letters will let those in charge know we're
> paying attention and that we care. The worry is that the outcry
> against Bush (atrocity fatigue??) won't be loud or strong enuff
> because (like some on this list) too many will say, Aw what's the use?
> Actually, the public's enraged response may actually turn the Blago
> deal into a very good thing for otherwise tempted pols.
>
> --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Thu, 12/11/08, E. Wayne Johnson /<ewj at pigs.ag>/* wrote:
>
> From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Support The Nadler Initiative
> Against The Planned Bush Blanket Pardons
> To: "unionyes" <unionyes at ameritech.net>
> Cc: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 9:48 AM
>
> Interesting.
>
> But note that Congress had good reason to Impeach Bush and go
> after his gang,
> but they did not.
>
> The most obvious reason why they did not go after Bush was that
> the opposition party wanted to retain
> the Anti-constitutionally broadened Executive powers, and let the
> aspersions for doing that fall on Bush.
>
> So what makes you think that all your cards and letters are going
> to make the opposition party go
> after Bush now that the reins of government power are falling into
> their hands? They have little
> to gain by pursuing Bush at this point.
>
>
> unionyes wrote:
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* theteam at peaceteam.net <mailto:theteam at peaceteam.net>
>
> *To:* activist.thepen at gmail.com <mailto:activist.thepen at gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 11, 2008 7:39 AM
>
> *Subject:* Support The Nadler Initiative Against The Planned Bush
> Blanket Pardons
>
>
>
> Ask Your House Member To Co-Sponsor H.Res. 1531 Against The Bush
> Preemptive Pardons
>
> Another day, another non-denial denial that Bush is planning
> midnight preemptive blanket pardons for his entire gang, including
> himself. In an article in the New York Times the other day,
> current attorney general Mukasey is quoted as asserting it would
> not be "necessary". Please take careful note he did not say it
> wouldn't happen, because unless we speak out now it WILL.
>
> The best shot we have is H.Res. 1531 which puts the
> administration on clear notice that there will be strong push back
> from Congress if they attempt such a scurrilous stunt. Please
> submit this action page to ask your House member to sign on as a
> co-sponsor of this measure.
>
> Support H.Res. 1531 Action Page:
> http://www.usalone.com/hres1531.php
>
> We all know that George Bush as someone without even the guts to
> face his own music, he who sent more that four thousand brave
> Americans to their senseless graves, for a premeditated and
> knowing lie in Iraq, tens of thousands of American crippled and
> mutilated for life, trillions looted from our economy, and he
> doesn't even have the simple courage to risk the accountability of
> having to defend his numberless crimes in a fair trial.
>
> It is now known that Nixon seriously considered pardoning himself,
> but even he was not THAT despicable. George Bush most certainly
> is. And remember that his administration has been infested with
> Nixon era cronies like Cheney and Rumsfeld, so it is no surprise
> that the malfeasance of the Nixon era has been magnified in the
> last eight years.
>
> Nixon infamously said, "If the president does it that means it is
> not illegal", conveniently after his own blanket pardon by the
> way. That has been their creed. The entire Bush administration
> has been one ongoing criminal enterprise since day one, a wrecking
> ball to the Constitution and rule of law, with torture, illegal
> surveillance, obstruction and perversion of justice in the firing
> of U.S. attorneys, not to mention national level election fraud,
> the naked treason of outing Valerie Plame, and on and on.
>
> And the only way we can make sure nothing like this EVER happens
> again is to demand full accountability, so that all America truly
> understands what a miserable, lying, cowardly creep we were so
> foolish as to allow get away with stealing two successive
> presidential elections.
>
> Please call on your members of Congress to immediately sign on to
> H.Res. 1531, and let's have a real national debate on the coming
> greatest outrage of all, before they get away with that too.
>
> Support H.Res. 1531 Action Page:
> http://www.usalone.com/hres1531.php
>
> And you can also still get an "Impeach Both!!!" cap from the
> return page from the action page submission. We're not going to
> say "while supplies last", because we'll manufacture as many as
> you can wear, right up until the last minute. Another 600 are
> going out today, for a total of upwards of 2,000 more in just the
> last two weeks. So if you have already requested yours, it is
> most likely already on the way.
>
> Please take action NOW, so we can win all victories that are
> supposed to be ours, and forward this alert as widely as possible.
>
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