[Peace-discuss] The Kennedys' fake liberalism... [reformatted]

[Jenifer Cartwright]

Ah, at last something on which we can agree absolutely!! Well put... and you've also answered yr own question: evangelicals will be voting for McCain, rather than voting for Hillary or not voting at all.
   --Jenifer

"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:
  Far from being king-makers, evangelicals are regarded by Republicans as 
blacks/radicals/etc. are regarded by Democrats: they've got no place else to 
go... --CGE


Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> The Evangelicals will NEVER vote for pro-choice Hillary over pro-life 
> McCain!! Even tho' McCain was not their first choice, he's got enuff of 
> their platform that he'll get their vote... and he'll also go a-courting 
> in their camp between now and November.
> --Jenifer
> 
> */"C. G. Estabrook" /* wrote:
> 
> The emergence of Mad John McCain as the putative Republican nominee
> looks like being a difficulty for those who think our problems are
> caused by people who don't believe in evolution. "Evangelical 'values
> voters' of the Midwest and South" would not seem to be too happy with
> McCain, whose favorite argument appears to be, "Fuck you!" (In that at
> least, he's a worthy successor to Cheney.) See
> .
> 
> If evangelicals turn out not to be directing presidential politics (and
> never have), what are they going to do in a Clinton-McCain election?
> Vote for Hillary? --CGE
> 
> 
> David Green wrote:
> > From Wiener's review (thanks Carl):
> > //
> > /Michael Kazin recently warned against viewing Hofstadter as "an
> elegant
> > ruin from a benighted age." Brown agrees, arguing that we need
> > Hofstadter to understand the tormented politics of our time. In this
> > view, Hofstadter may have been wrong about yesterday's Populists,
> but he
> > was right about today's Republicans. *The rise of George Bush is
> said to
> > mark the return of status politics, because Republican majorities
> depend
> > on the Evangelical Protestant "values voters" of the Midwest and
> > South--former Populist areas!* Facing economic decline, they
> blame their
> > problems on the "liberal elite" and vote for prayer in schools
> and guns
> > everywhere else....(Wiener's view:) That seems like a thin lesson to
> > draw from a thick body of work./
> > //
> > Indeed, it seems like no lesson at all to draw from Hofstadter's
> work,
> > both because Hofstadter himself appears to have had serious
> doubts about
> > it, and because it's wrong. Because the Democrats repress class and
> > economic issues, "red state" voters either vote for Bush or stay
> home.
> > They're absolutely right in their mistrust of a liberal elite,
> and right
> > to associate that elite with the horrible Clintons and his erstwhile
> > Democrat successors, including of course his wife. Talk of "status
> > anxiety" and "status politics" among the middle and working
> classes is
> > intellectual sloganeering and reactionary sociology from both
> liberals
> > and conservatives who are threatened by "extremes" who want to
> rethink
> > the notion of "progress" in an egalitarian manner that debunks the
> > measure of Gross Domestic Product.
> >
> > DG



       
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