[Peace-discuss] Moon eclipse

[Morton K. Brussel]

Not all church members were educated or informed, as Magellan no  
doubt knew.

Incidentally, the "standard model" at the time was in fact that of  
Ptolemy; the model you describe was formulated by the ancient Greeks,  
Aristotle, etc., and I believe it had been well superseded by the  
time of Dante (≈1300 AD). But perhaps the church liked Aristotle's  
formulation more than that of Ptolemy (≈150 AD) (which endured until  
after Copernicus (≈1500AD) and Galileo).

--mkb

On Feb 21, 2008, at 4:57 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:

> Liberal myth-making, I'm afraid (which is not unknown in our own  
> time).
>
> I doubt Magellan ever said any such thing, because educated Europeans
> (including church officials) of Magellan's time (and long before) did
> not think the earth was flat.
>
> The standard model (as in Dante) was of a round earth at the center  
> of a
> series of concentric spheres, each one (except the ninth) holding the
> the moon, sun, or one of the planets.
>
> A quite brilliant book on the model of the world from ancient times
> through Shakespeare and Milton is C. S. Lewis, THE DISCARDED IMAGE.  I
> used to insist my grad students in Renaissance studies read it. --CGE
>
> Ricky Baldwin wrote:
>> Hope you saw it, it was a nice one - and early enuf that even  
>> Catharine stayed up for it.
>> We were reminded of a quote attributed to a famous, and famously  
>> deeply flawed, earthbound explorer who despite his many barbarous  
>> acts and allegiances was able to look up from the muck and blood  
>> of brutal history and come up with this one:
>> "The Church says the Earth is flat, but I have seen its shadow on the
>> Moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the Church." - F.  
>> Magellan (not the first man to circumnavigate the globe)
>> Ricky
>> --- Karen Medina <kmedina at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>>> A total moon eclipse may be seen around 9:01 PM this evening, if  
>>>> clouds permit. A
>>> fairly rare event, which may foretell nothing.
>>> It may not even foretell a "change"?
>>> -karen medina p.s. It is so nice to have peace and peace-discuss  
>>> lists back up again! Yay!
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