[Peace-discuss] Obama's FP expert...

Thu Feb 28 08:51:29 CST 2008

Actually, Power scares me every bit as much as McCain. She is more clever at justifying killing people for humanitarian reasons. Rhetorically, her tactics on the program were clear: say that she disagrees with Scahill's facts, but not say why (there isn't time), and then let's move on to solve the current problem, without recognizing that the current problem is U.S. policy. It makes one long for Madeline Albright, who was at least honest about her moral ugliness. But I think the establishment has learned from Albright. It seems that we will now see our policies more often carried out by women who can put an attractive face on them. Folks really shouldn't fall for this. I'm afraid what calls itself feminism will.

  DG

Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com> wrote:
    I'm sure Jeremy Scahill had more to say, but as it stood, Samantha Powers bested him. I was pleased that Amy let her have the last word a number of times on both days. I'll check the link. Thanks.
   --Jenifer

"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:
  I though Scahill exposed her support for Clinton's war quite well. I posted 
here an analysis of Power's views by a fairly competent reviewer last summer:

Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> I know even less about this subject than I do about most other things. I 
> was going by statements and arguments she made that neither Scahill nor 
> Goodman/Gonzalez were able to rebutt. Of course Carl wasn't in the room 
> w/ them at the time ;-) 
> --Jenifer
> 
> */"C. G. Estabrook" /* wrote:
> 
> She praised the Rambouillet "agreement" and Clinton's attack on
> Serbia. That
> puts her, incidentally, to the right of Henry Kissinger, who
> admitted at the
> time that "The Rambouillet text ... was a provocation, an excuse to
> start
> bombing." --CGE
> 
> 
> Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> > Don't you mean the */awesome/* Samantha Power? She acquitted herself
> > /*very*/ well a couple of days running on DN! despite holding the
> > minority view among those around the table...
> > --Jenifer
> >
> >
> > */"C. G. Estabrook" /* wrote:
> >
> > [...is the awful Samantha Power, formerly on the faculty of the
> > Kennedy School
> > at Harvard (where even undergraduates know that the K-School, with a
> > few
> > exceptions, is a joke). Here's a sketch, heavy with subtext, from
> > Shmuel Rosner
> > of Haaretz. --CGE]
> >
> >
> > ...She doesn't claim that the NIE is correct, but rather that the
> > international
> > community is using it to fend off Bush on the Iranian issue. And
> > lest there be
> > any doubt: "I do not underestimate the threat that is Iran." Her
> > objective -
> > Obama's objective - is "to neutralize Iran."
> >
> > Iran is one of the items troubling Israel supporters who scrutinize
> > Obama's
> > positions. The former Israeli ambassador to Washington, Danny
> > Ayalon, demanded
> > that the candidate explain what he means to gain by meeting Iran's
> > president,
> > Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Power volunteers to do so. "Do people have the
> > right to be
> > worried? Of course," she says. Just so long as they portray
> > accurately what we say.
> >
> > With regard to Iran: "Reasonable people can agree or disagree on the
> > issue of
> > meeting with Ahmadinejad," but here's what she thinks: The chance of
> > persuading
> > Ahmadinejad may not be great, but it is worth examining, and a
> > meeting "will
> > increase the chance for mobilizing international sanctions, because
> > the world
> > will be reminded that Ahmadinejad is the problem," not America as
> > many now believe.
> >
> > ...In the interest of brevity, here, in a nutshell, are several more
> > of Power's
> > positions: Immediate and intensified involvement in the
> > Israeli-Palestinian
> > peace process. It has to be resolved first of all for the benefit of
> > the parties
> > involved, but also to preevent "cynical Arab leaders" from
> > exploiting the
> > conflict as a tool for justifying their policies.
> >
> > She thinks that the talks between Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and
> > Palestinian
> > President Mahmoud Abbas are being held "in good faith."
> >
> > Asked who is to blame for there being no agreement yet, Power says
> > there is no
> > point expanding on that, but emphasizes that "I've never blamed
> > Israel for the
> > failed talks" (at Camp David). But precisely how should these talks
> > be handled,
> > and what should the goal be? She's no expert on that, she says, and
> > suggests
> > calling Dan (Shapiro), the campaign's adviser on the Middle East, or
> > Dennis
> > (Ross), who also advises Obama (advises - but is not an adviser).
> >
> >
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerBlog.jhtml?itemNo=957778&contrassID=25&subContrassID=0&sbSubContrassID=1&listSrc=Y&art=1
> >
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