[Peace-discuss] Pointless primary

[Laurie at advancenet.net]

Fine; but what about the other half who were not so well informed in NH or
those you refer to in the 2004 elections?  IN the US simple pluralities do
carry weight and 1/2 approaches a majority.  I am sure it is a debatable
question whether one can blame a victim for being a victim if they are dumb
enough to let themselves be victimized without realizing that they are doing
so or even that they are being victimized.  I have faith in my fellow man
and woman that even if they were well informed and of high intelligence they
would let themselves be victimized and would opt to believe whatever was
popular or opportunistically advantageous.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net [mailto:peace-discuss-
> bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G. Estabrook
> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 3:29 AM
> To: Jenifer Cartwright
> Cc: Peace-discuss List
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Pointless primary
> 
> Looking down on the electorate for being "ill-informed," in the present
> media regime, is a case of blaming the victim.  Half of the eligible
> voters in NH were well-enough informed to know that the primary was a
> show for the media and celebrities and had nothing to do with them, and
> so didn't bother to vote.
> 
> In the 2004 election, a majority of Bush voters thought that Bush
> supported the Kyoto treaty (he didn't), because the treaty was
> reasonable and Bush had been marketed as a reasonable man... --CGE
> 
> Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> > Ah yes, another example of our ill-informed electorate. And folks on
> > this very list were arguing some months back w/ posts describing joe
> > sixpack in those terms??
> >  --Jenifer
> >
> > */"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>/* wrote:
> >
> >     More evidence that the issues have been carefully removed from
> the
> >     presidential campaign, really now no more than a high-school
> popularity
> >     contest. --CGE
> >
> >     NH Voters Thought McCain Opposed the Iraq War?
> >     Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 in News by James Bovard
> >
> >     CNN crunched the exit poll data from yesterday's New Hampshire
> primary
> >     and found that "among the 34 percent [of Republican primary
> voters] who
> >     said they disapproved of the war, McCain had a wide advantage
> over the
> >     GOP field - even over Texas Rep. Ron Paul, the sole advocate of a
> U.S.
> >     withdrawal in the Republican field." (hat tip to Think Progress).
> >
> >     Perhaps such voters did not realize the temporal difference
> between
> >     exiting Iraq "now" (in Ron Paul's case) versus 10,000 years from
> now
> >     (in
> >     McCain's case, according to his comment on CBS's Face the Nation
> >     last week).
> >
> >     McCain has rarely missed a chance to grovel at Bush's feet to
> support
> >     the Iraq war...
> >
> >     http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2008/01/09/nh-voters-thought-mccain-
> opposed-the-iraq-war/
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