[Peace-discuss] for more clarity on this issue

[John W.]

Damned g-mail.  This wasn't finished, and I don't know how it got sent.


On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:21 PM, John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:47 PM, LAURIE <LAURIE at advancenet.net> wrote:
>
> Under today's culture, I think that the notion of "crimes of passion" needs
>> to be broadened to include not just those committed without any rational
>> thought on impulse as it were to those committed with premeditation using
>> patterns of thought which employ forms of logic which deviate from what we
>> term rational or reasonable logic.  For instance, the gang member who gets
>> in an argument with another member of their gang and leaves to go home to
>> get a gun so as to come back to kill the other gang member because that gang
>> member injured the pride or reputation of the gang member who went to get
>> his gun.  In the eyes of that gang member, he is defending his reputation
>> and good name, which to him is the only possession he really owns (much like
>> a traditional white working and middle class person's view of personal
>> private property like their house); and any means is justified to achieve
>> the ends where life and death are no big thing but reputation is everything.
>>
>
> So Laurie, you're suggesting that the penalties for such crimes should be
> reduced?  :-)  You will recall, of course, that "crimes of passion", whose
> definition you are proposing to ENGLARGE, are assigned LESS culpability
> (e.g., manslaughter) than the so-called premeditated crimes (e.g.,
> first-degree murder).
>
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