[Peace-discuss] What Carl's highly AWARE average American will be watching at the movie theater this weekend...

C. G. Estabrook galliher at uiuc.edu
Thu Jul 10 01:27:11 CDT 2008


Come on, John, you Right-wing anti-democrat.  You'll like the movie.  I'll even 
drive (if you buy the popcorn, of course).

John W. wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:40 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at uiuc.edu 
> <mailto:galliher at uiuc.edu>> wrote:
> 
>     And so we need a Serious Group to run things for us until we become
>     interested, up to your standards, right?
> 
> 
> That is in fact what we HAVE, and what we will continue to have until we 
> as a people become interested enough to do something about it.  There's 
> always a Serious Group willing to fill the power vacuum - for a price.
> 
>  
> 
>     BTW, will you buy the popcorn? (Ethanol's pushed corn prices out of
>     sight.)
> 
> 
> I wasn't planning to ATTEND Hellboy, Carl.  I'm much too elitist for 
> such nonsense, as you well know.  Are you suggesting that you have 
> fallen on hard times, and that I provide a subsidy for YOU to purchase 
> YOUR popcorn?
> 
>  
> 
>     John W. wrote:
> 
> 
>         On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:54 PM, C. G. Estabrook
>         <galliher at uiuc.edu <mailto:galliher at uiuc.edu>
>         <mailto:galliher at uiuc.edu <mailto:galliher at uiuc.edu>>> wrote:
> 
>            The American ruling class is as alive to the danger that
>         democracy
>            poses as their ancestors who drafted the anti-democratic
>            constitution of 1787 were. (See, e.g., the famous 1975 Trilateral
>            Commission study, The Crisis of Democracy -- the crisis being
>         that
>            there was too much democracy around, growing out of the '60s.)
> 
>            And it's no accident that the media (including film) are as
>         asinine
>            and stupefying as they are.  (See, e.g., Frances Stonor Saunders'
>            wonderful book about how the CIA spent a great deal of money
>         to dumb
>            down culture -- The Cultural Cold War: The CIA and the World
>         of Arts
>            and Letters.)  
>            But if one wanted to disparage democracy, one of the best
>         ways to do
>            it would be to convince people that all around them were
>         fools and
>            poltroons. --CGE
> 
> 
>         It's been convincingly demonstrated in many quarters, Carl, that
>         democracy only works if you have an engaged and reasonably
>         educated populace.  Americans may be educable in the
>         fundamentals of democracy, but they haven't yet demonstrated
>         that they're particularly interested in it.
> 
>         Enjoy Hellboy II.
> 
> 
>          
>            n.dahlheim at mchsi.com <mailto:n.dahlheim at mchsi.com>
>         <mailto:n.dahlheim at mchsi.com <mailto:n.dahlheim at mchsi.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
>                John,
> 
> 
>                  I just cannot help but think that the masses really are
>                asses... Doesn't the entertainment just become more
>         asanine and
>                stupeifying?  The culture just continues its inexorable and
>                continued decline....
> 
>                    Best,
>                    Nick
> 
> 
>                ----------------------  Original Message:
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>                From:    "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:jbw292002 at gmail.com>
>                <mailto:jbw292002 at gmail.com <mailto:jbw292002 at gmail.com>>>
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>                Subject: [Peace-discuss] What Carl's highly AWARE average
>                American will be watching at the movie theater this
>         weekend...
>                Date:    Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:01:26 +0000
> 
>                    Ooops....it's that damned conspiracy of the media to
>                    manufacture consent
>                    again!!!  :-(
> 
> 
> 
>                    *Hellboy II: The Golden Army (2008)*
> 
> 
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