[Peace-discuss] Surprise! Iraqis want Americans out

[C. G. Estabrook]

	Iraqi Public Opinion on the Presence of US Troops
	Testimony of Dr. Steven Kull
	Director, Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA),
	University of Maryland
	Director, WorldPublicOpinion.org
	July 23, 2008 - 2:00 PM

Before House Committee on Foreign Affairs, Subcommittee on International
Organizations, Human Rights, and Oversight

Subcommittee Chairman Rep. Bill Delahunt: And next we have Dr. Steven Kull, the
director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes testified during the
kickoff in the wrap-up hearing for our hearings -- our inquiry, rather, into how
the United States is viewed by the rest of the world.

I don't have the time to list his various expert qualifications as a pollster,
because he has just one that counts to most the me: There's nobody that we trust
more to interpret polling and focus groups results for us, and today he will
address and educate us on Iraqi opinion about the issues surrounding the
U.S.-Iraq agreement: timetables, withdrawals, sovereignty and the presence of
U.S. forces.

Thank you again, Steve, for joining us ... Dr. Kull, would you please proceed?

DR. KULL: Thank you for inviting me to speak. Today I will be addressing the
question of how the Iraqi people view the presence of US troops in Iraq and,
more importantly, what they want to see happen in the future. As I will
demonstrate, the Iraqi people are showing signs of impatience with the pace of
US withdrawal.

Now one may ask why this matters. Obviously the Iraqi people will not be
negotiating the agreements about US forces in Iraq. As long as the government
wants US troops there, one may believe that it does not matter what the Iraqi
public thinks.

However, it does appear that the Iraqi government is paying attention to the
Iraqi public. As you probably know, 144 of the 275 members of Parliament signed
a letter calling for a timetable for the withdrawal of US troops, citing as a
key reason the attitudes of the Iraqi people. This call for a timetable was then
reiterated in the June 3rd letter presented to the US Congress from
representatives of the Iraqi Parliament. Just in the last few days Prime
Minister Maliki has been increasingly aligning himself with this public
pressure. This may well be influenced by the prospect of upcoming elections.

Thus, if the US government wishes to play a constructive role in the future of
Iraq it behooves us to understand better the dynamics of public opinion and thus
the forces of the political universe within which Iraqi leaders are operating.

Furthermore, Iraqis' attitudes about US forces are likely to affect their
readiness to cooperate with coalition efforts to fight the insurgency, or even
their readiness to support the insurgency. There is evidence that many Iraqis do
support attacks on US troops and that this attitude is related to perceptions of
US long-term intentions in Iraq. Thus dealing with these perceptions is critical
to the success of the mission.

So turning now to the polling data: is the story simply that Iraqis want US
forces to leave Iraq? I will indeed be presenting some data that say that Iraqis
want US troops to leave within a near-term time frame.

But I will then show some data suggesting that their attitudes are not quite
that simple: That there is some interest in a continuing relationship with US
forces, but only in a context in which the relationship between the US and the
Iraqi government is fundamentally changed from what it is now.

I will start with the most recent polling. In March of this year ORB conducted a
poll for the British Channel 4, asking Iraqis what they would like to see happen
with the Multinational Forces. Seventy percent said they want the Multi National
Forces to leave, with 78 percent of this group wanting them to leave within six
months or less and 84 percent within a year. Thus about six in ten of the whole
sample said they want the troops out within a year or less.

In a poll conducted in February of this year for a consortium of news outlets
led by ABC News, 73 percent said they oppose the presence of coalition forces in
Iraq. Sixty-one percent said that the presence of US forces in Iraq is making
the security situation in Iraq worse.

Iraqis have been asking for a timetable for withdrawal for some time now. At the
beginning of 2006 WorldPublicOpinion.org found that 7 in 10 wanted US-led forces
out according to timetable of two years or less. About a year later 7 in 10
favored a timetable of one year or less.

In late 2006 the US State Department conducted polls in numerous major Iraqi
cities and consistently found about two-thirds calling for the US to leave.

While some might think that the Iraqi people should be impressed with the
results of the surge on stability in Iraq, most insist that they are not. In the
Channel 4 poll only 26 percent said that the surge had succeeded while 53
percent said that it had not. The ABC News poll found only about a third saying
that the surge had a positive effect on security and slightly over half said
that it had made security worse.

Iraqis seem to shrug off concerns about the security implications of a US
withdrawal. Asked by ABC News what impact it would have on the overall security
situation "if American forces left the country entirely," only 29 percent say
that it would become worse. Forty-six percent said it would get better and 23
percent said it would be the same. Asked about the British withdrawal from
Basra, 6 in 10 say that the security situation there is the same or better. In
the WorldPublicOpinion.org poll 58 percent predicted that if US-led forces were
to leave Iraq inter-ethnic violence would go down, and 61 percent predicted that
day-to-day security would improve.

Now, all this said, it would seem that the Iraqis are giving a pretty
unequivocal message for US-led forces to leave Iraq within a fairly narrow time
frame. However, there are other poll questions in which the Iraqi people express
a desire for some degree of continued involvement.

The very same ABC News poll that delivered some of the harshest criticism of US
troops also asked whether the US should have "a future role" in a number of
areas. Remarkably high numbers said that it should. Seventy-six percent favored
the US providing training and weapons to the Iraqi army. Eight in 10 favored the
US participating in security operations against al-Qaeda or other jihadists
operating in Iraq -- something that would, of course, be at odds with the US
completely withdrawing all its forces.

Support for non-military forms of involvement has also been high. The
WorldPublicOpinion.org poll found 68 percent favoring "helping Iraqis organize
their communities to address local needs such as building schools and health
clinics."

More broadly, the Channel 4 poll asked Iraqis whether they want the US to play a
larger or smaller role in the future of Iraq. Only 22 percent said they want the
US to play a smaller role. The largest number -- 40 percent -- said they want
the US to play a bigger role and another 13 percent want America's role to
remain the same as now.

So what is going on here? How is it that on one hand Iraqis think the presence
of US troops makes the security situation worse and they should leave within a
year, and on the other hand that it would be very nice if they were to train
Iraqi forces and help with the security situation vis-a-vis al-Qaeda?

Here is my interpretation. There are two frames through which Iraqis view US-led
forces in their country. One frame -- the weaker frame -- is that security in
Iraq is still fragile and that the US may be able to offer some aid to Iraq.

The other and more dominant frame is that the United States has effectively
occupied Iraq. As early as 2004 Gallup asked Iraqis whether they primarily
thought of coalition forces as liberators or occupiers. Seventy-one percent said
occupiers.

In a variety of ways Iraqis signal that they do not feel that they have genuine
sovereignty. In our September 2006 poll 77 percent said that they assumed that
the US plans to have permanent bases in Iraq. More importantly, 78 percent said
they thought that if the Iraqi government were to tell the US to withdraw its
forces, the US would refuse to do so.

Our analysis of this poll found that frustration with this situation may be
related to support for attacks on US troops. A disturbingly high 61 percent of
Iraqis said that they approved of attacks on US troops. What was curious was
that approximately half of these same people who approved of attacks on US
troops said they did not actually want the troops to leave immediately. Rather,
it appears that they supported the attacks because they thought it was necessary
to put pressure on US troops to leave eventually.

So what does this suggest? It suggests that what is key here is that the US
needs to address the feeling held by most Iraqis that they are not being treated
as a sovereign power.

One way that has been widely discussed is for the US to set a timetable for
withdrawal. This would make unambiguous that US troops will eventually leave.

Some have argued that a timetable would weaken the government because it would
send a signal to the insurgents that the US is not determined to stay the
course. However, WorldPublicOpinion.org has found that only one in four Iraqis
appear to agree. Rather, 53 percent have said that a timetable would strengthen
the government. Presumably this would be because it would contribute to the
perception that the government is, or at least will soon be, the real power in
the country.

More fundamentally, the US must find ways to show respect for the Iraqi
government. It should be recognized that for the US to have such powers as the
right to arrest and imprison Iraqis independent of the oversight of the Iraqi
government weakens the perception that the Iraqi government is in charge. Most
important, though, convincingly sending the message that the US will only be in
Iraq as long as the government wants it to be is central. The idea proposed by
Michael Matheson of basing the UN Mandate governing the presence of US troops on
Chapter VI rather than Chapter VII could be a meaningful way of codifying that
US troops are in Iraq at the will of the Iraqi government.

In closing, it is clear that the Iraqi people are quite eager for the US to
lighten its military footprint in Iraq. More importantly it appears that they
are eager to regain their sense of sovereignty. As long as they do not have this
sense, they are likely to continue to have a fundamentally hostile attitude
toward all aspects of the US presence in Iraq. However, as Iraqis gradually
regain this sense that their country belongs to them, they will likely move
toward wanting some ongoing relationship with the US, both economic and
military, to help them find their way out of this troubled period of their long
history.

Thank you for your attention.

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