FW: [Peace-discuss] Bush admin torture policy

[Jenifer Cartwright]

Yes, head shot including upper chest in full military attire, hat, stripes, bars.

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, LAURIE <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET> wrote:

From: LAURIE <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>
Subject: FW: [Peace-discuss] Bush admin torture policy
To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 9:09 PM








 
 

 
Jenifer,
 
What you have suggested might work.  I would suggest that if one were to do this, then the photograph should be of him in his uniform and not a head shot per se.  This would allow viewers to identify him not only with what he did but with his being a high ranking military person and not some crazy civilian type.
 



From: Jenifer Cartwright [mailto:jencart13 at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:51 PM
To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; LAURIE
Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Bush admin torture policy
 




I agree absolutely, from "idiots" (maybe "willingly ignorant voters" would be more accurate?) thru "get their attention." I do think that a large head shot with very large letters saying, e g, EXPOSED TORTURE AT ABU GRAHIB might work. Short, and legible from a distance. Also gets my vote because he's a Fillipino who experienced discrimination from fellow officers during his military career and knew he'd have no career if he blew the whistle. Definitely a hero.
 --Jenifer

--- On Wed, 6/18/08, LAURIE <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET> wrote:

From: LAURIE <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>
Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Bush admin torture policy
To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 5:09 PMWell, if they weren't, we would never have been in these wars and Bush wouldnot have been re-elected.  Arguably, there would be an influx of anti-warfloats in the July 4th parade, protesting the war rather than celebratingwars and the military, patriotic duty to support the troops while theyengage in maiming and killing in the name of making the world safe forDemocracy and U.S. corporations, among numerous other inane things likecapitalism (i.e., the JM Jones and two trucks) rather than merely the birthof the country.  Also arguably, if the public were not idiots, we would notneed to even have a float - never mind one that presents them with anti-warheroes and people of courage to stand up against their government's wrongdoing.   I am willing to wage that if you polled most of the public on the names thatyou are proposing, over half would not know who the hell you are talkingabout and half of those would not get
 the message even if you conveyed it onthe float.  Before you can get their attention to educate them, you have toget their interest and the easiest way is through things that they have somefamiliarity with. I doubt if many know who the hell Major General AntonioTaguba, USA (Ret.) is or that he was not in support of the administrationstand.   > -----Original Message-----> From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net [mailto:peace-discuss-> bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G. Estabrook> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:26 PM> To: LAURIE> Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Bush admin torture policy> > People aren't idiots.  Tell them what they haven't been told byour> media &> schools.  --CGE> > LAURIE wrote:> > I think that one of the problems with some of the names suggested is> that> > the general public will not know who they are or why they are being> > recognized without a lot or pre-parade education.
 Even a large banner> > headline saying something like "These individuals stood against> unjust> > actions and policies when it counted!" probably would not getthe> point> > across in a way that is desired.  I would think that it would need to> be> > people who are generally recognized on the face of it by the public> for> > their achievements and positions if the most impact is to be gained.> >> >> -----Original Message-----> >> From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net [mailto:peace-> discuss-> >> bounces at lists..chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G. Estabrook> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:44 PM> >> To: Peace-discuss> >> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Bush admin torture policy> >>> >> [Maybe Gen. Taguba should be included in those honored on the 4thof> >> July float.> >>   Also, this might make a good flyer for the Saturday 5 July> >> demonstration. --CGE]> >>> >>> >>  Published on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 by Physicians for Human> >> Rights> >> 
 War Crimes Committed and Justice Denied> >>  by Major General Antonio Taguba, USA (Ret.)> >> ...> _______________________________________________> Peace-discuss mailing list> Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> http://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/peace-discuss    _______________________________________________Peace-discuss mailing listPeace-discuss at lists.chambana.nethttp://lists.chambana.net/cgi-bin/listinfo/peace-discuss
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