[Peace-discuss] Perjorative and off-topic subject lines

[C. G. Estabrook]

What my post had to do with Obama was my pointing out -- what is the case -- 
that on Iran and Israel Clinton was taking a position identical to the one that 
Obama had taken, consistently from his senatorial campaign.  

Hopeful liberals want to believe that Obama's better than Clinton on the war, but 
if you pay attention to what he's actually said, it's clear that he isn't.  --CGE  


---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:15:15 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>  
>Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Perjorative and off-topic subject lines   
>To: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu>
>
>   Carl,
>      Again, reminder that the article you posted was
>   about Hillary, and -- other than yr off-topic and
>   perjorative subject line -- had NOTHING to do w/
>   Obama!!! C'mon Carl, let's leave this kind of dirty
>   fighting to the creeps on the far right. 
>      Okay, my last time to rise to the bait so nobody
>   has to reread that perjorative and off-topic subject
>   line again on my account!
>     --Jenifer 
>    
>    
>   "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>     Why isn't it better to find out what's true in
>     regard to Obama's position --
>     such as what he's said about Rev. Wright's
>     observations? --CGE
>
>     Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>     > John and Mort,
>     > Yeah, the Bush Gang, Limbaugh, O'Reilly et al
>     follow the same course of
>     > action: Say that a thing is true often and
>     loudly enuff, and folks will
>     > believe it's true... hence the unrelated and
>     perjorative subject line
>     > which gets objected to, repeated, and read over
>     and over again by
>     > subscribers to this list (and which I've again
>     bowdlerized)...
>     > --Jenifer
>     >
>     > */"C. G. Estabrook" <GALLIHER at UIUC.EDU>/* wrote:
>     >
>     > Delighted to be able to give you such joy, John.
>     While you're
>     > writhing with
>     > pleasure, you might reflect on what you know
>     quite well, that
>     > liberalism is the
>     > name we give currently to the covert and overt
>     political theory of
>     > possessive
>     > individualism.
>     >
>     > The theory holds that society is made up of
>     isolated individuals,
>     > having only
>     > chosen and not necessary relations to others.
>     (Or as one of its
>     > modern prophets,
>     > Margret Thatcher, put it, "There is no such
>     thing as society: there are
>     > individual men and women, and there are
>     families...")
>     >
>     > Not the least contradiction in the theory is
>     that it ignores the
>     > condition of
>     > its own apparition, viz. the rise of capitalist
>     society, in which
>     > all human
>     > relations are fantasized as commodities ("the
>     fact-value
>     > distinction"), and
>     > everyone becomes a salesman. --CGE
>     >
>     >
>     > John W. wrote:
>     > > At 09:38 AM 4/29/2008, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>     > >
>     > >> Liberals entertain the fantasy that reality
>     is subject to their
>     > wills.
>     > >>
>     > >> Solipsism is a constant temptation to them.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > Oh, GOD Carl, I LOVE it when you do the
>     pot-kettle-black thing!!! :-P
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >> Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >>> "True" only in YOUR reality, Carl :-)
>     > >>>
>     > >>> */"C. G. Estabrook" /* wrote:
>     > >>> No, the subject line is explained by the
>     fact that it's true, and
>     > >>> the opposite
>     > >>> implication is false.
>     > >>> ...
>     >
>     >
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