[Peace-discuss] Urbana's WQ seeking ethnic cleansing and more
power over property owners.
C. G. Estabrook
galliher at uiuc.edu
Wed Nov 12 18:59:11 CST 2008
Do you really *favor* the Peoples' Republic of Urbana proceeding against people
who might engage in "mob action"? And who do think they will be?
Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> It goes w/o saying that bad laws should be repealed and false charges
> should be fought! But surely y're not suggesting e g opposing speed
> limits because a racist cop threw MLK in jail for "speeding?"
> --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Wed, 11/12/08, C. G. Estabrook /<galliher at uiuc.edu>/* wrote:
>
> From: C. G. Estabrook <galliher at uiuc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Urbana's WQ seeking ethnic cleansing
> and more power over property owners.
> To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
> Cc: "'E. Wayne Johnson'" <ewj at pigs.ag>, "'Peace-discuss'"
> <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>, ronpaul-305 at meetup.com, "LAURIE
> SOLOMON" <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>
> Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 5:18 PM
>
> Civil rights demonstrators as well as anti-war demonstrators have frequently
> been arrested on charges of "mob action."
>
> An anti-war anti-racist effort should surely oppose this bit of PC repression.
>
> --CGE
>
> Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> > Whoa, Guys, news flash: ALL economic classes and ALL ethnic groups
> appreciate
> > living in quiet safe neighborhoods that are free from "nuisance
> activities,
> > among them mob action, assault, battery, unlawful use of weapons,
> > prostitution, sexual assault, public indecency, illegal gambling, arson
> and
> > drug-related crimes." I can't believe you think that ANYONE --
> regardless of
> > race or economic status -- wants to- or should be expected to put up w/
> these
> > things!! How can you possibly conclude that this is something wanted
> by/meant
> > for "rich white folks," implying that "poor black
> folks" -- or ANY folks --
> > don't care one way or another about these things!?? Wow, this seems
> like a
> > snobbish -- and racist -- reaction to me!! --Jenifer
> >
> >
> > --- On *Wed, 11/12/08, LAURIE SOLOMON /<LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>/*
> wrote:
> >
> > From: LAURIE SOLOMON <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET> Subject: RE:
> [Peace-discuss]
> > Urbana's WQ seeking ethnic cleansing and more power over property
> owners. To:
> > "'E. Wayne Johnson'" <ewj at pigs.ag>,
> "'Peace-discuss'" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>,
> ronpaul-305 at meetup..com Date: Wednesday,
> > November 12, 2008, 11:31 AM
> >
> > Ø Property "owners" should take note that all of their
> property is lent to
> > them by the kind permission of the Queen
> >
> >
> >
> > And the Queen is being lent to you by permission of the good voters of
> > Urbana. J
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
> [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On Behalf Of *E. Wayne
> > Johnson *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:20 AM *To:* Peace-discuss;
> > ronpaul-305 at meetup.com *Subject:* [Peace-discuss] Urbana's WQ seeking
> ethnic
> > cleansing and more power over property owners.
> >
> >
> >
> > Consider the article below...
> >
> > I suggest that Prussing just cut directly to the chase and say that she
> wants
> > to create an queendom in Urbana that is exclusively for wealthy white
> folks
> > except that a few others needed for domestic servants are welcome provided
> that they meet her standards. All the riff-raff should be summarily kicked
> > out onto the streets. Property "owners" should take note that
> all of their
> > property is lent to them by the kind permission of the Queen, and serious
> consequences shall befall all who respect her not.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Urbana considering ordinance for repeat nuisance offenders
> >
> >
> > By Mike Monson
> >
> >
> > Wednesday November 12, 2008
> >
> > URBANA – The city administration wants broad power to crack down on
> problem
> > properties where criminal activities occur twice or more within a
> six-month
> > period.
> >
> > City aldermen on Monday discussed a proposed "criminal nuisance
> property"
> > ordinance, but, at the suggestion of City Attorney Ronald O'Neal,
> postponed a
> > final vote until next month.
> >
> > "I recommend you give this one a really close look," he said.
> "There will be
> > some concern from property owners regarding its use."
> >
> > Mayor Laurel Prussing said she asked O'Neal to draft the ordinance.
> >
> > "We try to make sure we can combat problems in every way possible to
> reduce
> > crime and make neighborhoods safer," she said.
> >
> > The proposed ordinance defines 15 criminal activities as nuisance
> activities,
> > among them mob action, assault, battery, unlawful use of weapons,
> > prostitution, sexual assault, public indecency, illegal gambling, arson
> and
> > drug-related crimes.
> >
> > If "a preponderance of the evidence" indicates that there have
> been two or
> > more instances of nuisance activity within six months, the city could
> under
> > the ordinance seek a fine of between $300 and $750 per day, per incident
> > against the property owner, occupant or person in charge.
> >
> > In hearing such a case, a judge could consider how serious the problem has
> > been, the cost to the city in investigating and attempting to resolve it
> and
> > how cooperative the property owner or other person has been, according to
> > wording in the proposed ordinance.
> >
> > O'Neal described the ordinance as "a very rough draft." He
> said it would give
> > police another option when certain properties are generating an inordinate
> > number of police calls.
> >
> > "This ordinance attempts to put some of the onus on property
> owners," he
> > said.
> >
> > The city attorney said he helped draft a similar ordinance for the city of
> > Aurora, where he formerly worked. O'Neal told aldermen that Aurora
> used its
> > ordinance selectively against three or four chronic violators.
> >
> > "We made property owners aware of this ordinance and let them know
> there were
> > some fairly stiff fines available," he said.
> >
> > The proposed ordinance would also give Urbana the authority to suspend the
> > city rental license for a property for a period of 30 to 180 days..
> >
> > Asked by Alderman Charlie Smyth what properties in Urbana might be subject
> to
> > such a penalty, O'Neal declined to name names, but said "they
> involve
> > apartment complexes and one or two bars as well."
> >
> > Alderwoman Heather Stevenson asked about a scenario where a landlord was
> > compelled to rent to a felon because of the city's human rights
> ordinance,
> > which prohibits discrimination against someone based on their criminal
> > record, and a situation where the felon then begins committing crimes.
> >
> > "You are not required to keep someone who is perpetrating ongoing
> criminal
> > activity," O'Neal responded. "You have grounds to evict
> them."
> >
> > Champaign passed an aggravated-public-nuisances ordinance about a decade
> ago
> > that targets property owners who allow their tenants to commit criminal
> acts,
> > said Champaign City Attorney Fred Stavins.
>
>
>
>
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