[Peace-discuss] FW: Obama's Use of Complete Sentences Alienates Americans, Smacks of Elitism

Sun Nov 23 11:08:45 CST 2008

Hmmm!  I am not sure what you are referring to when you ask for my
suggestions.   I think that I gave some of my suggestions explicitly to Dave
Johnson in response tone of  his post a little while ago and  to others less
explicitly in response to similar requests. 

How about starting now to organize and mobilize a future general strike
closing down the government, country, and economy if Obama does not deliver
on progressive demands in a significant way within the first 1-2 years of
his administration and make this as a threat to back up petitions and
requests that the progressives and left is making?  How about demanding
progressives and leftists be appointed to significant official posts,
nominated for judgeships, and put on task forces under the threat of
negative sanctions such as direct actions on the streets ala the 1960s  if
it is not done (of course, you will need to have those sanctions in place
for potential implementation  and seriously threaten to use them  to make
them be a threat)? 

Of course, one might try the indirect route of threatening to withhold
support from  and actually work against the local Democratic party and its
candidates if they do not put strong pressure accompanied with negative
sanctions for non-performance on the State office holders to strong pressure
accompanied with negative sanctions for non-performance on federal
legislators (Congresspersons) to strongly pressure accompanied with negative
sanctions for non-performance the Obama administration (e.g., by the
withholding of Congressional support for his Administration and their
legislative programs and appointments) unless Obama and his administration
appoint  progressives and leftists to positions of authority and power,
implement progressive policies and actions desired and suggested by the
progressive community, etc.

Again petitioning and making demands or suggestions alone will not cut it;
this is especially true if such things are filtered through the existing
transition team and appointees.  One needs a stick to go along with the
carrot; and that stick is not  voting behavior at the next election.

From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
[mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of Jenifer
Cartwright
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:50 AM
To: webmaster at one-world.org
Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; sf-core at yahoogroups.com; LAURIE
SOLOMON
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Obama's Use of Complete Sentences Alienates
Americans, Smacks of Elitism

Specifically, what do you suggest we do that we're not already doing???

 --Jenifer

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From: webmaster at one-world.org <webmaster at one-world.org>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Obama's Use of Complete Sentences Alienates
Americans, Smacks of Elitism
To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net, sf-core at yahoogroups.com, "LAURIE
SOLOMON" <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>
Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 2:40 AM

It is somehow comforting to hear complete sentences from any political
figure,
much less the president-elect!  Wow! We educated folk get to feel like we're
being represented....

 Still, we shouldn't be complacent.  A schooled fellow in office
doesn't mean we'll see the transformations we want.  If you want any
hope of your policy ideas being reflected in Obama's policies, you'll
have to start now.  This time of "transition" is the time to start
hammering the new president with suggestions.  The aggregate result of
individuals, responding through the Obama internet behemoth, might actually
have
some impact, even if it is only "social movement ammunition" for him
to use while he pushes certain agenda.

 I'll put it this way:  if you want a single-payer national health plan,
now is the time to be clamoring.  If you want an end to war, now is the time
to
demand it.  If you want to see a new "New Deal," with a "Green
Progress Adminstration," then you should start asking for it now.  The
transition period for Obama is unlike any other in history, because he has
set
up a 2-way information infrastructure with his base.  We should take
advantage
of this situation.

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    Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:40:42 -0800 (PST)
    From: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] FW: Obama's Use of Complete Sentences
Alienates Americans, Smacks of Elitism
      To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net, sf-core at yahoogroups.com, LAURIE
SOLOMON <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>

> This is terrific! Overlooking of course that we all heard Obama say 
(cringe)  "Prez Bush has kindly extended an invitation for Michelle  and I
to visit the White House".
>  --Jenifer
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> Subject: [Peace-discuss] FW: Obama's Use of Complete Sentences 
Alienates Americans, Smacks of Elitism
> To: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net, sf-core at yahoogroups.com
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> In the first two weeks since the election, President-elect Barack  Obama
has broken with a tradition established over the past eight  years through
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controversial use of complete sentences, political  observers say.
> Millions of Americans who watched Mr. Obama's appearance on CBS's
60  Minutes on Sunday witnessed the president-elect's unorthodox verbal 
tick, which had Mr. Obama employing grammatically correct sentences
virtually
every time he opened his mouth.
> But Mr. Obama's decision to use complete sentences in his public 
pronouncements carries with it certain risks, since after the last  eight
years
many Americans may find his odd speaking style jarring.
> According to presidential historian Davis Logsdon of the University  of
Minnesota, some Americans might find it "alienating" to have a 
president who speaks English as if it were his first language.
> "Every time Obama opens his mouth, his subjects and verbs are in 
agreement," says Mr. Logsdon. "If he keeps it up, he is running the 
risk of sounding like an elitist."
> The historian said that if Mr. Obama insists on using complete  sentences
in his speeches, the public may find itself saying, "Okay,  subject,
predicate, subject predicate -- we get it, stop showing off."
> The president-elect's stubborn insistence on using complete  sentences
has already attracted a rebuke from one of his harshest  critics, Gov. Sarah
Palin of Alaska.
> "Talking with complete sentences there and also too talking in a way 
that ordinary Americans like Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder  can't
really do there, I think needing to do that isn't tapping into  what
Americans are needing also," she said.
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> Andy Borowitz is a comedian and writer whose work appears in The New 
Yorker and The New York Times, and at his award-winning humor site, 
BorowitzReport.com.
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