[Peace-discuss] Who bailed out...

[John W.]

Blum is right on. of course.  What he does not say is that Palin is
therefore the ultimate electable candidate in 21st century America, as the
two terms of Bush Junior have demonstrated.

I'm finally convinced, too, that Carl is right.  Obama is a traitor just as
they all are.  No one in good conscience could have voted in favor of the
Paulson sellout, let alone championed it.


On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Morton K. Brussel <brussel at illinois.edu>wrote:

You should have quoted the whole article, which also considered the McCain
> women. And as an antidote to the "populist" Palin, I would suggest a look at
> what Bill Blum has to say. See http://members.aol.com/bblum6/aer62.htm
>
> His description is a trifle different, viz:
>
> *Palintology*
> What's the proper term to use to categorize a person who is ... blindly
> patriotic, jingoist, an evangelical Christian creationist, gun and hunting
> enthusiast, National Rifle Association supporter; denies the science behind
> global warming, with a philosophy of "dig, dig, dig", and in foreign policy:
> "bomb", "bomb", "bomb"; untraveled, uneducated, ignorant, a devoted
> book-banner, racist, opposed to equal rights for gays, fanatically
> anti-abortion, anti-feminist, and has a 17-year-old daughter pregnant and
> unmarried?
>
> The proper American term is "white trash". Or, as the honorable governor of
> Alaska apparently prefers, "redneck" -- "Rouge cou" is what she called a
> business she registered.
>
> And what do you call the person if on top of all that she declares in the
> year 2008 that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9-11 and that "a
> surge in Afghanistan also will lead us to victory there as it has proven to
> have done in Iraq"? The proper term is "scary", or perhaps "scary moron".
>
> And what do you think of this person when you learn that she believes that
> the war in Iraq is a "task that is from God"? I think this is actually a
> form of insanity. There are people in institutions all over the world
> charged with killing others, who insist that they were acting under God's
> command.
>
> And if the above is not enough to make you fall in love with the woman,
> consider that she believes that humans coexisted with dinosaurs 6,000 years
> ago; and have a look at a video of the vice-president/president-to-be
> undergoing an exorcism performed by a minister to free her body from
> "witches".[6] When we consider the flak that Barack Obama received because
> his minister is not in love with US foreign policy, imagine what Palin will
> get for having a minister who performs witch exorcism. Nothing.
>
> So, have we forgotten anything about her charming belief system? Santa
> Claus? The Easter Bunny? Oh, she must have been kidnaped by a space alien at
> one time. I hope some day to meet her and have her read my palms, my tea
> leaves, my aura, my horoscope, and my tarot.
> --mkb
>
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2008, at 11:53 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>
> The brief mutiny is over. The Democrats, who control Congress, have pushed
> through the outrageous Paulson swindle, giving an initial $700 billion or so
> to Wall Street. The Democratic presidential nominee, Barack Obama, lobbied
> hard for the bankers' bailout, according to reps and senators receiving his
> phone calls. Obama voted for the package of course, and so did the vice
> presidential Democratic nominee, Joe Biden.
>
> With McCain one could at least speculate, as I did here last week, that he
> might have opposed the bailout in one last desperate throw to rescue his
> flagging campaign. In the event he disdained that lifebelt,  clicked his
> heels and saluted the big money, just like Obama and Biden.
>
> I never heard anyone speculate that Obama might, against all the odds,
> rally to the "No to Bailout" cause. His Yes was pure. He told reporters in
> Clearwater, Florida last Wednesday that "issues like bankruptcy reform,
> which are very important to Democrats, is probably something that we
> shouldn't try to do in this piece of legislation." In addition, he said that
> his own proposed economic stimulus program "is not necessarily something
> that we should have in this package."
>
> In the crunch, almost invariably, Obama does the wrong thing and in my
> opinion he always will. Just count out the moments of surrender: reauthorize
> the Patriot Act? Aye, from Obama. The "class action fairness act", sought by
> Big Business for years. Aye from Obama. Capping credit card interest rates?
> No-o-o from Obama. FISA? Aye from Obama.  With Robert Rubin at his side,
> his bailout vote was as sure as that of the harlot of the credit card
> companies, the six-term senator from Delaware, Joe Biden.
>
> Normally, in these elections, one  tries to peer forward into the future,
> to alert people to impending villainies, still dim in contour.  Rare is it
> to have corrupt servility to the Money Power so brazenly displayed by the
> Democratic ticket merely a month before the ballot. We have just witnessed
> a class struggle where, for once,  we had a huge popular coalition
> stretching all the way across the political spectrum. The coalition was
> there; the anger was there;  the timing was perfect. " The great appear
> great to us," James Connolly wrote, "only because we are on our knees. Let
> us rise." This time it was Paulson who was on his knees. Could not Obama, at
> this moment of  extraordinary power, have extorted extraordinary
> concessions from these frantic bankers? He could, but he fled the task.   Could
> not Bernie Sanders have filibustered the bill? Of course not. That would
> have taken the Vermont blowhard "independent" far beyond his ritual bluster.
>
> Obama's designated role in these fraught times is to de-fuse, not inspire;
> to urge the angered crowd to remain calm, and disperse quietly, not to march
> upon the citadel, pitchforks upraised.
>
> But somehow Obama is not the focus of the liberals' fury. From many of the
> pieces pouring into my inbox, I can scarcely deduce that he was even at the
> scene of the crime. Sparing Obama, the left and the progressives reserve
> their venom for the Republican vice presidential candidate, Sarah Palin.
>
> I read more than one piece from these gallant leftists hailing Biden for
> his fine performance. Biden! This is a man with six full terms of infamy in
> the US senate. Find a Palestinian kid maimed from a cluster bomb, and you'll
> likely read "Greetings from Joe Biden" scrawled on the casing. Find someone
> crippled from 25 per cent interest charges on credit card debt, and you'll
> espy "Best wishes,  Joe Biden" scrawled across the front of the bill. He's
> a poster boy for all that is foul about the Democratic Party. Here are some
> of his lines inn Thursday's debate:
>
> Biden: Gwen, no one in the United States Senate has been a better friend to
> Israel than Joe Biden. I would have never, ever joined this ticket were I
> not absolutely sure Barack Obama shared my passion….Here's what the
> president said when we said no. He insisted on elections on the West Bank,
> when I said, and others said, and Barack Obama said, "Big mistake. Hamas
> will win. You'll legitimize them." What happened? Hamas won. When we kicked
> -- along with France, we kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon, I said and Barack
> said, "Move NATO forces in there. Fill the vacuum, because if you don't know
> -- if you don't, Hezbollah will control it."
>
> Now what's happened? Hezbollah is a legitimate part of the government in
> the country immediately to the north of Israel.  The fact of the matter
> is, the policy of this administration has been an abject failure.
>
> And speaking of freedom being on the march, the only thing on the march is
> Iran. It's closer to a bomb. Its proxies now have a major stake in Lebanon,
> as well as in the Gaza Strip with Hamas.
>
> We will change this policy with thoughtful, real, live diplomacy that
> understands that you must back Israel in letting them negotiate, support
> their negotiation, and stand with them, not insist on policies like this
> administration has.
>
> Ifill: Senator, you have quite a record… of being an interventionist. You
> argued for intervention in Bosnia and Kosovo, initially in Iraq and Pakistan
> and now in Darfur, putting U.S. troops on the ground. Boots on the ground.
> Is this something the American public has the stomach for?
>
> Biden: I think the American public has the stomach for success. My
> recommendations on Bosnia. I admit I was the first one to recommend it.
> ….With regard to Iraq, I indicated it would be a mistake to -- I gave the
> president the power. I voted for the power…. I don't have the stomach for
> genocide when it comes to Darfur. …. We can lead NATO if we're willing to
> take a hard stand…. When a country engages in genocide, when a country
> engaging in harboring terrorists and will do nothing about it, at that point
> that country in my view and Barack's view forfeits their right to say you
> have no right to intervene at all.
>
> I will place my record and Barack's record against John McCain's or anyone
> else in terms of fundamental accomplishments. Wrote the crime bill, put
> 100,000 cops on the street….
>
> Had enough? We're not talking a novice, two-year governor of Alaska here, a
> woman the liberals and pwogs are –in my view somewhat creepily -- thrill to
> beat up on. We talking a man with a lot of blood on his hands, a man who has
> played a serious role in incarcerating, hence disenfranchising millions of
> poor people, many of them black, for drug offenses...
>
> [The entire article is at <http://www.counterpunch.org/>.]
>
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